Princeton Prof Only American Left Who Still Publicly Hates Gay People
All across America, Vermont's and Iowa's decisions to allow same-sex marriage were greeted with applause or indifference or mild grumbling. Vociferous protest there was not. Well, except for this hilarious video from the National Organization for Marriage, a group fronted Princeton professor of jurisprudence (Princeton has a law school?) Robert George:
This $1.5 million video (what production value!) has been mocked across the spectrum since its recent debut. Stephen Colbert got his shots in; Frank Rich referenced it in his last column; there have been YouTube videos since ordered down because the National Organization for Marriage claimed copyright infringement.
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April 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Dan Haley One of Many IvyGate Writers Who Still Publicly Denies the Possibility of Dissent from a Narrow, Unreasoned, and Passing Ideology
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Dan Haley’s a f*cktard who apparently has a problem with an opinion shared by the majority of Americans.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Or…we could not treat gay marriage, issues of discrimination, and homophobia as if they’re issues of religious freedom. Imagine if people still stood by the religious rhetoric offered to slaves that their enslavement was justified by God.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
… really? the rainbow coalition? That seems like something Perez Hilton would love :)
April 24th, 2009 at 12:12 am
There are a lot of spelling mistakes in this article. Thought you should know. “Amercians?” “National Ogranization for Marraige?” C’mon.
And to the first two posters: I sincerely hope you’re kidding. I don’t care what your views on gay marriage are, this video is ridiculous and richly deserves to be mocked. Dan’s article, you may notice, doesn’t actually say anything about gay marriage, just that the video is absurd. Judging by how vociferous your responses are, I have to assume your reactions were reflexive and that you respond similarly to anything remotely in favor of gay marriage or against the people who oppose it, regardless of which side happens to be making more sense. Such hair-trigger thinking does you and your position little credit.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:47 am
To the first few posters: God you’re douches.
Learn to differentiate between discrimination, hatred, and propaganda and religious freedom. You’re getting a first-class education; make the most of it.
This is exactly the kind of bull that makes every Christian out there (group to which I proudly belong) look xenophobic and hateful.Even if you’re against gay marriage, which I can understand; there’s absolutely no denying that this campaign was utterly ludicrous and the cheapest form of propaganda.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:50 am
This is BIG news. It has stirred up a lot of controversy on campus:
http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2009/04/23/alleged-homophobia-causes-outcry
How could you miss this?!
Just look at all of the comments!
April 24th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Thank you C’11.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Princeton, in fact, does not have a law school.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:43 am
of course IvyGate wouldn’t mention the HUGE Cornell discrimination story; the new guard doesn’t seem to be making much of a point of actually reading the daily sun any more (or most of the other ivy dailies for that matter).
a step in the wrong direction, i say
April 24th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Thanks for the heads up on my spelling! That was, er, atrocious.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
“The [married couple that asked the gay student to step down], both members of [Christian group] Chi Alpha at Missouri State University before graduating in 2002, became Cornell Chi Alpha’s campus pastors in 2006.”
I’m not sure why they were letting Southern Christians from Missouri State run anything at Cornell. That was a recipe for disaster from the start.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
To call a poorly made video “hate” is hyperbolic. Saying that Americans can legitimately disagree on whether or not marriage necessarily involves a man and a woman is not. Consider the possibility that there might be people who disagree with you not out of ignorance or stupidity, but because they hold different values.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Some values are stupid and ignorant.
Fuck your stupid values.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Let me elaborate: when you need to seek recourse in the state in order to “protect” your purely cultural values, i.e. correct those who waiver from the doxa, you are a fucktard and your values suck.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Still, it was a little stupid for Dan to accuse the prof of “Hating gay people.” Talk about intolerance.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Thank you for defending tolerance and opposing hate. May you remain blissfully un-self-aware.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
The “helpless mother” was my favorite.
I’m a New York man helplessly watching public schools teach the next generation that punching these bigots in the face is not OK.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
homosexuality is an abomination against nature
April 25th, 2009 at 3:34 am
Sorry, fucktard “True Believer”. Man is of nature, and so are his actions. You know what else is? Gay fucking penguins. And gay everything else.
Drunk now, and intolerant of bigoted Christians. Take your filthy, foul-smelling slave morality elsewhere. Preferably out of my democratic republic. Thanks.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I’m sure some of you over-cultured Ivy types noticed this, but the song playing in the background when Robert George comes on is called “Nimrod IX.”
Clearly no one thought this through all the way.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
“Thank you for defending tolerance and opposing hate. May you remain blissfully un-self-aware.” I have nothing against intolerance or hate. Some things don’t deserve to be tolerated, and some things deserve to be hated. I hate telemarketers, for example, and do not tolerate them. It’s not because of what they believe or do on their own time, though; it’s what they do, and how it has an effect on me. So, I’ll repeat myself: so long as your purely cultural values are so unconvincing to people so as to require the force of the violence in order to endure, your values suck and you suck. Now take your “I know you are but what am I riposte” and shove it where the people you hate like to shove things.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
What is up with all the militant degenerate supporters as of late? Mock the video as you wish – I think it’s a very timely reaction to the recent intensification of the attacks on marriage.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:03 am
When I first read “militant degenerate supporters” I thought you were referring to the homophobic side. I then read your 2nd sentence and saw you’re one of them. How sad.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Lookout princeton: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1893976,00.html
April 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Homosexuals deserve to have their place, just not at my school
April 26th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
@Anonymous – Oh hi there! I didn’t realize Ivygate had readers from Liberty U. I guess you heard about us after the article on the guy from Brown who wrote that book about you?
Anyways, feel free to go back home anytime…
April 26th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
“Man is of nature, and so are his actions. You know what else is? Gay fucking penguins. And gay everything else.”
Man is of nature, and so are his institutions like marriage. You point out that gay people are more like animals than humans. They are subhuman.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
a vast majority of animals are heterosexual. does this make straight people “subhuman” too?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
would anyone else like to see Colosseum death battles between Christians and gays?
April 27th, 2009 at 12:32 am
How is marriage “of nature”? Kind of how the institution of stopping at red lights is also “of nature”. This conversation has taken a turn towards excessively banal, a banality which is painfully lacks delight.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:32 am
How is marriage “of nature”? Kind of how the institution of stopping at red lights is also “of nature”. This conversation has taken a turn towards excessively banal, a banality which is painfully lacking in delight.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:40 am
How is marriage “of nature”? Kind of how the human institution of stopping at red lights is also “of nature”. This conversation has become excessively banal. I’m not that well acquainted with Christian dogma, but I was under the impression that some sort of messiah died for our sins.
@truebeliever: Doesn’t this martyrdom have us all covered for ‘heaven’. I mean, except for the subhuman ‘homosexuals’ who want to be a part of your ‘human’ institutions.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am
@To d10 and C11:
If you’d read my post closely, you’d have noticed that I did not use the word “hate” once. My issue with posters like The Hope Express is not their ideology–although I disagree with them, they are entitled to a nonviolent point of view–but with the fact that they see this video as a battleground. When, in fact, it’s nothing but a melodramatic piece of crap. If you are against gay marriage, fine, but if you feel that defending this thing is important to your ideology, then you should seriously examining the reasoning behind your beliefs. Because this video lacks even a semblance of reasoned argument.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
The poor quality video aside, Robert George is once of the most brilliant men of our time.
His stunning success at such a young age DESPITE his rather traditionally conservative positions is a testament to his incredible gifts.
His work on bio-ethics is visionary. His treatment of constitutional issues is such that he is universally respected despite shunning traditional law school positions.
His con-law class is notoriously difficult at Princeton.
Together with John Finnis, he has led a revival of Natural Law jurisprudence.
Mock the video. But Robbie George is a stud.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:02 am
ummmm… William’10, Robert George doesn’t appear in that video…