Comments on: The Great Ivy League Snob Off, Part II:Keith Olbermann Is Also Embarrassing.

By: William Dusenberry

William Dusenberry — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:18:45 +0000

New Jersey City University (NJCU) is often called “Harvard on the Hudson.”

The New Jersey Commission of Higher Education has written three letters stating that the President of NJCU used fraudulent academic credentials to become president.

But nothing else can be done about this fraud — unless the NJ Governor instructs his Attorney General to do so. And, he won’t — because this NJCU President is a member of his Education Commission; and this President’s second full-time job (Director: Provident Securities; over $1,000.000 in earnings during the past three years)makes this President too much of a politically connected asset.

Google: “Fraud at New Jersey City University” for more details.

By: CU gEEk

CU gEEk — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:45:58 +0000

Anyone who thinks there is not a hierarchy has either never seen test scores or is ignoring their own subservience.

Engineering is the best in the Ivy League and among the best in the world. Ag & Life Sciences is good, but loses style points for replicating Arts & Sciences departments and paying less tuition. ILR… union organizer. Ugh. ‘Nuff said. HumEc exists so we can have a few fashionable and attractive people on campus. Architecture, Arts and Planning are solid except in fine arts. Hotelies are very nice, not really academically solid, almost as attractive as HumEc but more organized — and wanting to run a restaurant or resort to hang with the jet set for their career. Finally: Arts & Sciences, the preening-yet-underperforming college. Some parts are tops (physics, math) while others are just also-rans. Unfortunately, nobody can get that across to the Artsies because they conflate envy from A&LS mirror-majors with actual prestige.

So for prestige, we have: Engr > AAP > Arts > Hotel > A&LS > HumEc > ILR; but, for academic rigor: Arts (phys/math) > Engr > A&LS > AAP > Arts (fluffy) > ILR > Hotel > HumEc.

The fluffy Artsies did get the Arts Quad though. So that got that going for them. Which is nice.

By: cornellkid

cornellkid — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:08:22 +0000

Unsurprisingly, people are still willing to argue about this issue. Possibly rightly so, as Coulter and Olbermann were equal and opposite dumbasses in this fight. Apparently this is the first law of newtonian douchebagery. Surprising, possibly, was Coulter’s old paper’s reaction: http://cornellinsider.com/2009/03/09/coulter-on-the-intricacies-of-cornells-schools/

By: lupus62

lupus62 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:14:55 +0000

I’m joining this discussion a few months late, and I’m amazed that it’s still raging. As with a previous poster, I find myself astonished that I would agree with Ann Coulter about anything, but I do. Trouble is, it’s like a playground fight: loud, furious, utterly meaningless.

Both combatants are childish snobs; both are too old to wave their academic credentials around; both are established spokespersons for the idiot right and the idiot left. (I usually side with he idiot left, but in this dumb confrontation, I side with the prettier idiot.)College students (and some alumni) play the status game constantly. It means a lot to the kids, and in fact it’s a serious component in hiring for one’s FIRST job, out of school. Afterwards, it’s of decreasing importance in the real world; it’s what you do after you leave school that counts. (In the interest of full disclosure: I went to a college generally regarded as second-tier then – now it’s top-tier – and my classmates and I were all Ivy wannabees. After college, I made it into TWO Ivy professional/graduate schools, hated both, and left without a degree. That ended any school snobbism I might have had left.)

But Coulter is right in “catching” Olbermann with false – or at least misleading – statements about his education. Putting myself back into my student head, I see a clear distinction between the Ivy and non-Ivy components of a university like Cornell; my own university had a School of Continuing Education, generally regarded as THIRD tier, or lower.

But this is all “purely academic” now. Where Coulter and Olbermann were educated simply doesn’t matter today: Olbermann is a credit to the Ag school and should be proud of it. Coulter is a well-educated piece of work and is overly proud of herself.

And both should simply shut up about the issue.

By: Julia

Julia — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:32:03 +0000

How surprising that someone flaunts their education like it’s their identity. I’ll give points to Coulter on this one, but both are equally smug about something that overall doesn’t mean very much. Just because you have a college education, it doesn’t make you a smart person. (And yes, I am college educated, so I’m not playing a “jealousy” card. I went to a prestigious university for undergrad and grad, but it doesn’t mean the folks I graduated with are better human beings.)

By: uneducatedloser

uneducatedloser — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:52:28 +0000

Both of these people are so far gone, I can’t believe I am even wasting 45 seconds of my time writing this…Although I have more respect for Coulter (oooh, can’t believe I said that), they’re both confrontational egomaniacs. KO’s show sucks! I didn’t like him on SC and I don’t like him now. He reminds me of the whiny kid on the block who annoys the crap out of you until you beat his ass. Just not a fan of unfair, illogical BS passed off as reporting or journalism from KO or his transgender clone, Maddow. btw – i am a communications drop-out, so my opinion doesn’t really count anyway.

By: bill hash

bill hash — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:01:48 +0000

To be fair, Olbermann isn’t a news show. It’s a show for people like Olbermann: narcissistic, hypocritical people with smugness and rage fueled by low self-esteem. I don’t have a problem with their not having ‘opposing points of view’ because it’s a show meant for a choir of like-thinking dittoheads. What bugs me is that he has the gall to pretend he’s not like Bill O’Reilly. Olbermann is actually worse because you have to add in what a complete douchebag he is, the hypocrisy of his entire act, plus those tired, childish voices he pulls. You know it just eats at his black little heart that O’Reilly has ten times his audience.

I’ll never get how statists fool themselves so thoroughly. Barack Obama made $2.7 million last year writing books about how oppressive this society is. Michael Moore made millions doing the same. Olbermann is a millionaire. Garofalo has money. They all live lives of luxury and spit the most vile hatred for working-class people … then pretend to be about the ‘common man’.

By: dbcooper

dbcooper — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:01:05 +0000

keith is a ignorant liar ,his mama was a whore who slept with his friends,,thinkj gang bang!

By: jacki

jacki — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:04:49 +0000

What’s so wrong with a major in Communications? I can understand other universities’ communications programs may be pretty easy, but Cornell’s is a lot different since they focus quite a lot on it being a social science like psychology or sociology would be. It’s also a gateway to fields like marketing and journalism (since there are no majors for either in Cornell) which I think are both respectable fields. Look at what the top CMOs (Chief Marketing Officers) of companies are making and you may think twice about Communications being such a throwaway. Same with Keith Olbermann. He makes millions a year.

By: CU'01

CU'01 — Fri, 15 May 2009 11:01:38 +0000

I went to Cornell for four years and later worked at the university for three years.

There were f*cktards in A&S, CALS, Johnson, Hotel, ILR, Vet, Engineering, AAP, and HumEc. F*cktards do not discriminate between colleges in their attendance. There are morons in every school. Maybe there’s a difference in the abrasive quality of the jackassery in different schools – hotelies are outgoing in their obnoxiousness! A&Sses are snobby! – but, hey, a prick is a prick is prick.

Yes, there were smart people in all the schools, too. Some of them were also tools. Funny how that works.

Oh, yeah, I work at Harvard now. Guess what? It’s full of tools, too.

Go Ivy.