Comments on: Daily Prince Uncovers Earth-Shatteringly Elitist Document http://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/ You just spent 40 grand. Treat yourself. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:29:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: @not buying ithttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-39689 @not buying it Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:07:45 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-39689 The reason why there aren't more latino-americans is because they are not actually citizens and thus cannot apply for FASFA. The reason why there aren’t more latino-americans is because they are not actually citizens and thus cannot apply for FASFA.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-39547 Anonymous Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:06:34 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-39547 "..defends Lawrenceville grads against uncivilized cowboys from uncouth and farflung territories like (shudder) Texas..."excuse me. I'm from Houston, and I find this comment horribly offensive. Do not hold Texas at blame for the failures of George W. Bush. Bush actually made a lot of progressive movements as governor, and is one of the reasons why Medical schools in Texas are so affordable. It's not Texas's fault that he is failing in the Executive Branch position.The comment about Texas was completely unnecessary and highly inappropriate. “..defends Lawrenceville grads against uncivilized cowboys from uncouth and farflung territories like (shudder) Texas…”

excuse me. I’m from Houston, and I find this comment horribly offensive. Do not hold Texas at blame for the failures of George W. Bush. Bush actually made a lot of progressive movements as governor, and is one of the reasons why Medical schools in Texas are so affordable. It’s not Texas’s fault that he is failing in the Executive Branch position.

The comment about Texas was completely unnecessary and highly inappropriate.

]]> By: not buying ithttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-38471 not buying it Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:07:08 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-38471 If this were true then why aren't more latino-americans, who make up a larger percentage of the work force than african-americans, admitted into the ivy? If this were true then why aren’t more latino-americans, who make up a larger percentage of the work force than african-americans, admitted into the ivy?

]]> By: ViolentQuakerhttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-38382 ViolentQuaker Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:10:27 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-38382 Guys, guys, we're getting distracted from what really matters here: how much ass Princeton sucks. Guys, guys, we’re getting distracted from what really matters here: how much ass Princeton sucks.

]]> By: yaayliehttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-38327 yaaylie Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:56:47 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-38327 *Correction: ... You will never *see* this cited as the reason... *Correction: … You will never *see* this cited as the reason…

]]> By: yaayliehttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-38325 yaaylie Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:54:52 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-38325 Wow. In any affirmative action discussion there's always a douchebag like D '07 who thinks that people should atone for the mistakes of certain dead people completely unrelated to them just because they're also white. To help your ignorance, that's NOT why affirmative action was put in place. You will never this cited as the reason for affirmative action unless the citer is as ignorant as you are or has a thing against white people. The official reason, although often put more euphemistically is this: if we had no affirmative action, the resultingly overwhelmingly white (and Asian?) student body would not be demographically representative of the society for which college is supposed to prepare its students. Therefore, to best prepare the most deserving students we admit, we will also admit some minorities under less stringent criteria so the most deserving can learn from a more diverse set of peers. Another argument you may see is that the minorities come from statistically poorer pools, and so have less opportunity to go to prep school, get an SAT tutor, join the polo team, etc, so the "affirmative action" is really a statistical reflection of admissions criteria being adjusted downward to fit the circumstances while not actually admitting more innately ignorant / less deserving students. I personally don't think the first argument is a good enough reason to have affirmative action, and that the "affirmative action" boost is stronger than would be anticipated by the second. But please, make reasonable arguments like that if you're for it. Don't come up with bullcrap about ancestal sin and shit like that. Wow. In any affirmative action discussion there’s always a douchebag like D ‘07 who thinks that people should atone for the mistakes of certain dead people completely unrelated to them just because they’re also white. To help your ignorance, that’s NOT why affirmative action was put in place. You will never this cited as the reason for affirmative action unless the citer is as ignorant as you are or has a thing against white people. The official reason, although often put more euphemistically is this: if we had no affirmative action, the resultingly overwhelmingly white (and Asian?) student body would not be demographically representative of the society for which college is supposed to prepare its students. Therefore, to best prepare the most deserving students we admit, we will also admit some minorities under less stringent criteria so the most deserving can learn from a more diverse set of peers. Another argument you may see is that the minorities come from statistically poorer pools, and so have less opportunity to go to prep school, get an SAT tutor, join the polo team, etc, so the “affirmative action” is really a statistical reflection of admissions criteria being adjusted downward to fit the circumstances while not actually admitting more innately ignorant / less deserving students. I personally don’t think the first argument is a good enough reason to have affirmative action, and that the “affirmative action” boost is stronger than would be anticipated by the second. But please, make reasonable arguments like that if you’re for it. Don’t come up with bullcrap about ancestal sin and shit like that.

]]> By: P '10http://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-38314 P '10 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:00:56 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-38314 This is phenomenal, but I wouldn't attribute it entirely to Ivy Gate. Glorious social commentary aside, Martha Vega actually went to Mudd Library and found this pamphlet. Credit where credit due, please. This is phenomenal, but I wouldn’t attribute it entirely to Ivy Gate. Glorious social commentary aside, Martha Vega actually went to Mudd Library and found this pamphlet. Credit where credit due, please.

]]> By: ptonhttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-38069 pton Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:04:25 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-38069 there are poor, underclass white people that would greatly benefit from affirmative action, just visit Appalachia. They have been stuck there for many generations, but people don't want to help them and just deride them as rednecks and white trash. Someone's skin color does not equate to his or her economic or social condition, and these two condition have a much greater effect on someone's life outcomes than skin color. An upper class black kid's life isn't going to be miraculously changed by going to Princeton, he will still have all the opportunities that is social status offers regardless of where he went to school. So I still don't understand why it is ok to prefer the minority (especially when social class is not considered) over a legacy? there are poor, underclass white people that would greatly benefit from affirmative action, just visit Appalachia. They have been stuck there for many generations, but people don’t want to help them and just deride them as rednecks and white trash. Someone’s skin color does not equate to his or her economic or social condition, and these two condition have a much greater effect on someone’s life outcomes than skin color. An upper class black kid’s life isn’t going to be miraculously changed by going to Princeton, he will still have all the opportunities that is social status offers regardless of where he went to school. So I still don’t understand why it is ok to prefer the minority (especially when social class is not considered) over a legacy?

]]> By: actuallyhttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-37978 actually Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:44:58 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-37978 p.s. this was a great find. And for the record, as much as I dislike affirmative action I find nepotism still more offensive. p.s. this was a great find. And for the record, as much as I dislike affirmative action I find nepotism still more offensive.

]]> By: actuallyhttp://www.ivygateblog.com/2008/12/prince-unearths-earth-shatteringly-elitist-document/comment-page-1/#comment-37977 actually Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:39:18 +0000 http://www.ivygateblog.com/?p=4308#comment-37977 Racism will live on as long as current generations are forced to pay for the injustices of past generations. Racism will live on as long as current generations are forced to pay for the injustices of past generations.

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