“Most Overrated” University Overcomes Princeton in US News Rankings

If you’re anything like me, you’ve been sitting around wondering, “When will Harvard get the recognition it deserves?” The wait is over, my friend. In US News and World Report‘s 2009 “National University Rankings,” Harvard surpassed Princeton for the top spot, ending 8 straight years of New Jersey rule. This comes on the heels of Princeton’s first-place finish in the flawed but entertaining Forbes.com best college list.

Harvard, incidentally, was just ranked “Most Overrated” in Radar Magazine’s guide to America’s worst colleges. The guide cites Harvard’s 25% virgin rate. But would you really want to have sex with that twenty-five percent? In other news, Cornell is listed as the runner-up to “Most Overrated.” When you think about it, it’s kind of a compliment. That is, until you read on and get to the part about Cornell’s status anxiety and Ithaca’s geographical advantages. To wit: “Thankfully, rocky gorges surrounding the campus continue to provide the sweet release of death for those Cornellians who just can’t take it anymore.”

But enough about suicide: following her venerable leader, Columbia advanced in the US News rankings. Yale and Dartmouth stayed the same. UPenn, Brown and Cornell all lost ground. The Liberal Arts Colleges are still unimportant.

Here’s how the Ivies fared:

1. Harvard (ranked 2nd in 2008)

2. Princeton (ranked 1st in 2008)

3. Yale (ranked 3rd in 2008)

6. Penn (ranked 5th in 2008)

8. Columbia (ranked 9th in 2008)

11. Dartmouth (ranked 11th in 2008)

14. Cornell (ranked 12th in 2008)

16. Brown (ranked 14th in 2008)

After the jump, Harvard tells you she’s embarrassed by all the attention.

In an email statement, Harvard spokesman John Longbrake said:

It is always nice to be recognized as one of the top universities. However, our admissions officers always tell prospective students that they should select a college or university that best suits their needs, not by its position in a ranking.

That’s just like Harvard, being all modest. Overrated? Not in my heart, Big H.

  • athelas

    It is sheer arrogance on the part of administrators who decry rankings to think that parents should spend $160,000 in tuition plus additional money for room and board but not have any way to compare colleges. And yet, of course, those same administrators have no problem with using numerical rankings to decide which students to admit.

  • athelas

    It is sheer arrogance on the part of administrators who decry rankings to think that parents should spend $160,000 in tuition plus additional money for room and board but not have any way to compare colleges. And yet, of course, those same administrators have no problem with using numerical rankings to decide which students to admit.

  • Nevermore

    First of all, parents don’t have to send their kids to college if they don’t want to, so don’t complain about the price tag. Second, colleges give prospective students ample means for comparison–free information sessions, tours, overnight stays, and so on. I imagine that colleges also would encourage students to read college guide books and other more objective resources. Colleges are not saying students shouldn’t be able to compare colleges. They’re saying that the US News rankings are a terrible way of doing so.

  • Nevermore

    First of all, parents don’t have to send their kids to college if they don’t want to, so don’t complain about the price tag. Second, colleges give prospective students ample means for comparison–free information sessions, tours, overnight stays, and so on. I imagine that colleges also would encourage students to read college guide books and other more objective resources. Colleges are not saying students shouldn’t be able to compare colleges. They’re saying that the US News rankings are a terrible way of doing so.

  • princeton09

    Wait, Harvard is a she?

  • princeton09

    Wait, Harvard is a she?

  • WilhelmtheYounger

    @Nevermore
    but SAT scores provide a perfect snapshot of an individual’s potential? We all know that they are relied upon for their expedience, same with USNews.

  • WilhelmtheYounger

    @Nevermore
    but SAT scores provide a perfect snapshot of an individual’s potential? We all know that they are relied upon for their expedience, same with USNews.

  • Nevermore

    I’m not criticizing the US News rankings. I’m saying that a college can do so without also saying that students shouldn’t be able to compare schools. I agree with you that the rankings are a decent, though imperfect, snapshot.

  • Nevermore

    I’m not criticizing the US News rankings. I’m saying that a college can do so without also saying that students shouldn’t be able to compare schools. I agree with you that the rankings are a decent, though imperfect, snapshot.

  • WilhelmtheYounger

    sure, they can do so. and they’re probably right, most ranking systems are terribly flawed. It just seems a little disingenuous to hear such critiques coming from a harvard administrator when the school relies so heavily on flawed rankings for admissions, and has even built part of its reputation on the very system it disparages.

  • WilhelmtheYounger

    sure, they can do so. and they’re probably right, most ranking systems are terribly flawed. It just seems a little disingenuous to hear such critiques coming from a harvard administrator when the school relies so heavily on flawed rankings for admissions, and has even built part of its reputation on the very system it disparages.

  • ivycanuck

    Um, I know this is a stupid question, but is there a reason the illustration here is stolen from the CBC’s website? Didn’t you notice the subtle Canadian flag and piles of Canadian money? Are you trying to make an argument about the superiority of Canadian universities? Please explain.

  • ivycanuck

    Um, I know this is a stupid question, but is there a reason the illustration here is stolen from the CBC’s website? Didn’t you notice the subtle Canadian flag and piles of Canadian money? Are you trying to make an argument about the superiority of Canadian universities? Please explain.

  • WilhelmtheYounger

    I think, like all things Canadian, none of us were supposed to have noticed.

  • WilhelmtheYounger

    I think, like all things Canadian, none of us were supposed to have noticed.

  • ivycanuck

    Who let the troll in again?

  • ivycanuck

    Who let the troll in again?

  • P10

    canuck, don’t be surprised when someone responds to your snark with more snark!

  • P10

    canuck, don’t be surprised when someone responds to your snark with more snark!

  • Y11

    It’s labor day. Me want IvyGate.

  • Y11

    It’s labor day. Me want IvyGate.

  • Dart11

    Owned by peer assessment again. If only it were a university…Oh Wait.

  • Dart11

    Owned by peer assessment again. If only it were a university…Oh Wait.

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