Secret Societies Return to Evil Glory by Stealing Akash’s Identity… on IvyGate Comment Board?
So, you know how some people say Skull and Bones isn't so powerful or evil anymore? Because if they were, Team Cazares would have squashed Akash Maharaj like a bug by now, right? Well, a few IvyGate commenters showed off their best creepily conspiratorial powers last night, managing somehow to get a hold of Akash's social security number and posting it all over our comment boards.
Under society-alluding pseudonyms like "munchingonyourbonelikeawolf" and "keystothebone," the commenters printed documents they claimed Akash sent to various education and government authorities. Some had different SSNs from others which made it seem like a hoax.-- until we got an email from Akash saying that at least one of them got it right, so could we please remove it from our website, kthxbye. He thinks Victor is behind it.
Since the comments all came from Yale IP addresses, the rogue commenters may actually have been so stupid as to not cloak their identities and will soon be shipped off to Guantanamo Bay or something. That, or the guy at the library who leaves his laptop unguarded during study breaks just got so screwed. Before last night, SSN-revealer "322" last commented a year ago, on our walrus moustache post.
Maybe Princeton's anti-anonymity brigade is on to something, after all.
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April 16th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
i don’t know the exact details of the case, but didn’t akash come to the u.s. illegally? so… how would he have a legit SSN?
April 16th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
I can’t concentrate on this story right now. That guy’s mustache is AWESOME! I want it.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
I heard that, CU2010!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
W? Is that Wharton? Do Wharton kids not say they went to Penn?
April 16th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
It was lower case. It must mean williams.
April 16th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
that’s what i’ve been trying to tell you guys. akash is NOT an illegal alien and most certainly has a SSN and it was posted several times on this site last night from an IP address that Ivygate reveals to be from Yale. it’s obviously Victor and/or his cronies and it will be interesting to see what the authorities do with this.
April 16th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
How ridiculous would it be if Bones finally came under legal investigation because one of their members did something like this? Posting SSN on Ivygate? Really?
April 16th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
i personally don’t think this is about skull and bones. i’m sure there are good people and bad people in the society just like are good and bad people everywhere. this is obviously something victor and/or his friends did and i’m sure the society at large wants no part of it.
April 16th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Looking at Victor’s pictures, I think it’s clear that in addition to making a concerted effort to tap minorities, women and gays, Skull and Bones also taps UGLY.
April 16th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
i’d tap that.
ugly that is.
April 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
“that’s what i’ve been trying to tell you guys. akash is NOT an illegal alien”
Yes, but unless you work for the Dept. of Immigration, how would YOU know that?
April 16th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
forget how I know that cc. way to catch on to the little fish and lose track of the big fish. this is a great thing Ivygate did. they’re basically doing the job of the Yale Police who should have arrested Victor for destroying Akash’s belongings. now Victor posted Akash’s SSN (more than once) on a public online forum and Ivygate has outed the IP address as coming from Yale. the YPD cannot ignore that now. why don’t we go back to talking about THAT? the fact that Victor or his friends (or both) just posted someone’s SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER online!
April 16th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
“why don’t we go back to talking about THAT?”
I think people here can talk about both. We’re Ivy Leaguers, remember, and are perfectly capable of compartmentalizing.
So, the question’s still out there. How do you, yale08, know that Akash is NOT an illegal alien?
I don’t think we should “forget” how you know. You brought it up. Can’t have it both ways.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Seems more and more like yale08=akash
April 17th, 2008 at 12:17 am
@yale08: cc is right. You can’t just put that out there and not expect to get called on it. Forget how you know? Let me get this straight: I’m supposed to turn off my brain and let someone else (you) tell me what information is and is not important? What, are you NSA or something? CIA? Akash? Hell no. Think fast kid, your credibility is fading fast.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:11 am
drudge is linking to this:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24513
April 17th, 2008 at 9:14 am
ivygate needs to pick up on this yale abortion project reported by drudge
April 17th, 2008 at 9:23 am
That abortion story is going to be a major scandal. Think of the excellent fodder that this will provide for the religious right. Yale is getting in the news for all the wrong reasons these days.
Someone care to make a dead baby joke?
April 18th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
nice move by victor and/or his friends to distract everyone from the fact that he/they posted akash’s social security number online. lol. luckily the police won’t be so easily distracted. maybe victor and akash can share a cell in prison…
April 19th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Nice move that psycho-loser Akash takes on a different online personality in order to pretend that he has numbers on his side. And it also tries to provide a distraction from answering the question HOW YALE08 KNOWS THAT AKASH IS NOT AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.
And because the SSN was posted online, that means you’re under no obligation to answer the question… how, exactly? Exactly how does that work out in your twisted, slanted, loonytunes universe that’s located in your schizy head?
But we’re still waiting for the answer. Can’t believe it’s taking this long to come up with one. Guess he can’t think of everything.
April 19th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
I don’t know either of these boys, but just playing devil’s advocate, if someone is indeed a permanent resident of the U.S., doesn’t that mean they would have a PR card or green card? Wouldn’t their friends or close friends have seen it at some point?
April 26th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
victor’s friends sure have gotten quiet ever since he (oops sorry, “someone from yale”) posted akash’s social security number online and ivygate outed the IP address as definitely being from Yale. ha ha! love it!
April 26th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
“victor’s friends sure have gotten quiet ever since he (oops sorry, “someone from yale”) posted akash’s social security number online and ivygate outed the IP address as definitely being from Yale. ha ha! love it!”
OR… it could be everyone’s quiet because there haven’t been any updates on this story. Any retard knows that, Akash you midget.
Is this the sort of thing most people write in their spare time when they’re about to be raped and beaten in prison for 25 years, LOL!!!!
And what’s YOUR IP address? Brooklyn, maybe?
Go skip another court date, coward. Hee hee!
April 26th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
“Is this the sort of thing most people write in their spare time when they’re about to be raped and beaten in prison for 25 years, LOL!!!!”
wow. that was vile and uncalled for…
April 26th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
MY IP address wasn’t used to post someone’s SSN online, CC. Have you forgotten the point of this story, that the Ivygate editors themselves ran? And way to take the high road by making fun of someone’s height and laughing at rape and abuse. Charming, really.
April 26th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
and hey VICTOR, you cross eyed bipolar, trailor trash freak, how does it feel to know that Noah Perez S who you were madly crushing on, is now dating and having sex with Raj Persaud (who you used to make fun of, probably because he wasn’t into you) and that Noah said he never found you sexually attractive? It’s gotta hurt right?
April 26th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
“wow. that was vile and uncalled for…”
Boo hoo. Akash can always stop posting if he doesn’t want to see such statements.
April 26th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
“MY IP address wasn’t used to post someone’s SSN online, CC. Have you forgotten the point of this story, that the Ivygate editors themselves ran?”
And have YOU forgotten that they posted documents with SEVERAL SSN numbers? In other words, if one happened to be authentic, AKASH USED SEVERAL OTHER FAKE SSNs to get himself into univerisities.
If one of them happened to be the real number, how are they supposed to know that? They were dealing with a psycho pathological liar. Me, I’d have thought ALL the numbers were fake. Looks like an innocent accident to me, Akash. But it looks as if this argument is all you got, you loser, so go ahead and stick with it.
And how do we KNOW one of those numbers was real? Because Akash said so? LMAO!!!! And we’re supposed to believe Psycho Loser? For all we know, he’s just trying to get incriminating evidence off the internet.
“And way to take the high road by making fun of someone’s height and laughing at rape and abuse. Charming, really.”
Akash, you’re as dumb as I remembered you.
I’m not laughing at rape and abuse. I’m laughing at YOU and what you may have to face in the near future. It’s a horrible thing when it happens to anyone else. But you? Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person, LOL!! Hooray for Karma!!
April 26th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
hey VICTOR (since cc is obviously you), say hi to your uncle for me the next time you see him mmk? I know how much you love “spending time” with him. does he know yet that you plan to steal his toys? someone should really let him and your family know that…
April 26th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
“Looks like an innocent accident to me, Akash.”
HA HA HA! Oh VICTOR, nice try. We’ll see if the cops feel the same way.
April 26th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
ooh! ooh! i’d like to hear more about victor’s uncle!
April 26th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
to hear more about Victor’s mom and this illegal immigrant she apparently had an affair with. if anything i feel sorry for victor’s dad. there he is working every day to support a lazy whore wife and an ungrateful son who steals his own father’s SSN and identity to get a credit card so he can buy a laptop. for shame.
April 26th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
CC…um I mean VICTOR, you joined a Facebook group called “I didn’t go to college just to drink and hook up” which made a lot of your facebook friends laugh because that’s ALL you clearly went to college to do you C-average student hack. You also recently joined a group called, “I Love Tits.” Hey, why not join a group called, “I really love my uncle?” It would be more honest.
April 26th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
victor also had an inappropriate relationship with an underaged kid. it would be too bad if someone told the kid’s parents…
April 27th, 2008 at 7:31 am
How sad. But funny too, in a way. Like an amusing homeless person ranting and screaming to himself in the street. I guess I hit a nerve, LOL!!!! Akash can’t even let a reasonable period of time go by before he posts under a new personality. It’s so transparent, it’s embarrassing.
Doesn’t look like the doofus has gotten over Victor. He thinks I’m Victor. Sorry, Akash, I’m not. If the moderators traced my IP number, they’d see I’m not in Yale at all. They’d see I’m in a whole other state. (And what would they see if they traced the IP adresses of the previous half-dozen posters? Hmmm? Want to give them an opportunity to see, Akash?) Don’t you realize you’ve made enemies your whole life? And some of us, including some people in your FAMILY, are seeing what’s happening to you, and feel no pity at all. You should just hear our conversations about you. We don’t feel pity. We’re relieved. It’s just what you deserve.
Chew on that a while, asswipe.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
oh good lord CC. you are so obviously Victor or one of his friends. i know Akash and his family has been incredibly supportive and understanding. made enemies his whole life huh? what about you? since akash was blocked from your facebook a long time ago, how did pictures of you, wall posts and messages from you, and stories about you make it to the editors at Ivygate and Gawker? seems like you have a lot of enemies yourself, and some of them are among your very own “friends and family.”
and speaking of family seriously, how is your uncle doing? you should really pay him a visit soon. i’m sure he misses his special time with you.
April 27th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Oh and Victor, you’re clearly not over Akash either since you keep posting hateful comments about him here. Is this why you aren’t enrolled in classes this semester? I figured you weren’t since you’ve been scarcely seen on campus and your name and picture have been removed from Yale’s official facebook online (not THE facebook — for anyone who doesn’t know, Yale has it’s own online facebook that only us students can access to see who is enrolled each semester. complete with photos. though i’m certainly glad your ugly mug isn’t there victor) so it’s possible you’re rutting in some other state, living off another misguided person who you’re using for money (which is all you ever do with people). but you clearly some in and out of new haven since 1) you have a place to stay at skull and bones 2) the IP address of the person dumb enough to post Akash’s SSN and phone number online (several times) has been identified as definitely from Yale and 3) you’ve had two pathetic readings of your yawn-inducing plays on campus this semester which you had to post on facebook to force your “friends” (the same ones who sent pictures and stories about you to Gawker and Ivygate) to come to. so yeah, not that difficult for you to be in another state, come to New Haven every now and then, and leave again. where are you staying now? at dartmouth with your ex or friends who you can live off of, you financial parasite? or maybe in new york with that asian cow yalie you call a dear friend, living off of her generosity too? wherever you are, the police can find you. your dad may not have called the cops on your ungrateful ass when you stole HIS SSN, but this time they will be looking for you.
April 27th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
i does miz victor vedy much, he be vedy good boy sit in my lap all time. miss u vikki.
April 27th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I wonder if people like steven kochevar know that victor is only friends with them so they will buy him dinner and so forth? Watch out Steven, watch out Noah, watch out Mark, watch out Juan…this kid will sell out all your secrets and talk about you behind your backs. You’re only a means to an end for him.
April 27th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
“i know Akash”
Of course you do. Because he’s you.
Just come clean on that for starters, and we’ll be making some progress.
I do feel bad for this Victor since every time you write, you go on defaming him. Maybe he deserves it for not having the foresight for taking up with a crazyass like you. But how sad that you’re attacking someone who is in no position to defend himself. (You still think I’m Victor, LOL!!! Crazy and an idiot. And obsessed. Woah, scarily obsessed. I’m so glad I’m not Victor. I’d fear for my life. God knows how badly you can damage a knee-cap, dwarfboy. HEE HEE!!)
But it’s kind of worth it, because every time I post, Victor enters your chemically-imbalanced brain and you go into a mentally deranged tizzy. Rant rant rant rant blather blather blather. Careful, Akash! You need to maintain your composure if your gonna con the judge into getting you into a rehabilitation program.
Yeah, of course your family supports you. But you know you broke their hearts, Akash. I can’t imagine how that must feel, knowing you can’t even look into their eyes without seeing the depthless pain you caused them. For failing them. For making up stories about them to other people to make them seem better and more accomplished than they are in reality. Why would you do that? Do they make you so ashamed, Akash? And is that why you lied to get into these schools? To not be like your parents, whom you lie about to everyone else? Must be a real tough burden you placed on yourself, Akash, and you can’t even live up to your own aspirations. God, you must hate being a failure. But that’s how you’re gonna end up, all the same.
It’s really not so funny. It’s very, very sad. Sadder still, because you can’t break the sick pattern of lying and stabbing people in the back and inventing fake personalities, and etc. Even after you got caught, Dude, get your shit together, seriously. You seriously think what you’re doing is a way to save a sliver of your reputation? Forget it. Your reputation is gone, destroyed, the end, you’ll always be Akash Maharaj the lying, cheating, threatening, manipulative, suicidal basket case. But if you showed a little remorse, if you owned up to what you did, then MAYBE you’ll have a chance at a turnaround. MAYBE. But keep posting as yale08 and other fake posters, and show us there’s no hope for you at all. And jail isn’t even enough for you.
This is probably my last post to you, because you’re boring me now. You’re not even an intellectually stimulating psychotic, not even close. But get your last word in. “Victor this! Victor that!” It’s nothing I care about. Doesn’t even TOUCH me.
April 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
hey it’s me victor. akash, i love you and your cock is the nicest i have ever felt. i’m sorry for all the mean stuff.
April 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
hey it’s me victor. akash, i love you and your cock is the nicest i have ever felt. i’m sorry for all the mean stuff.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Next up: cc vs christianarchisti. Two men enter, one man leave! Or is that “One man enter…”?
April 27th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
CC. You are Victor. Or one of his friends. Whatever. I’m not Akash but go on saying whatever you want. You’re way too invested in hating Akash to be anyone else but Victor.
And your posts have hardly been entertaining or intellectually stimulating.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:55 am
“It’s nothing I care about. Doesn’t even TOUCH me.”
Too bad we can’t say the same for your uncle…
April 28th, 2008 at 8:22 am
“I’m not Akash”
Oh, no? Then how do you know he’s not an illegal immigrant? Still haven’t answered that. LOL!
How do you know, you not being him, hmmmm? Your never answering this repeated is VERY suspicious. :P
Yeah, Akash, you have a whole history of being people who you say you’re not, yale08 being only the latest one. Clever name. Thanks to the net, you can always pretend to be someone you’re not and will never be, like yale08. You’ll never be a yale08 or 09 or 10 or any graduate from anywhere EVER!! What a lifelong loser. Enjoy the excersise yard, bwah hah hah! I’m sure you’ll be getting a nice view of the concrete every other day, wimp.
April 28th, 2008 at 8:25 am
“I’m not Akash”
Oh, no? Then how do you know he’s not an illegal immigrant? Still haven’t answered that. LOL!
How do you know, you not being him, hmmmm? Your never answering this repeated question is VERY suspicious. :P
Yeah, Akash, you have a whole history of being people who you say you’re not, yale08 being only the latest one. Clever name. Thanks to the net, you can always pretend to be someone you’re not and will never be, like yale08. You’ll never be a yale08 or 09 or 10 or any graduate from anywhere EVER!! What a lifelong loser. Enjoy the excersise yard, bwah hah hah! I’m sure you’ll be getting a nice view of the concrete every other day, wimp.
April 28th, 2008 at 8:27 am
“I’m not Akash”
Oh, no? Then how do you know he’s not an illegal immigrant? Still haven’t answered that. LOL!
How do you know, you not being him, hmmmm? Your never answering this repeated question is VERY suspicious. :P
Yeah, Akash, you have a whole history of being people who you say you’re not, yale08 being only the latest one. Clever name. Thanks to the net, you can always pretend to be someone you’re not and will never be, like yale08. You’ll never be a yale08 or 09 or 10 or any graduate from anywhere EVER!! What a lifelong loser. Enjoy the excersise yard, bwah hah hah! I’m sure you’ll be getting a nice view of the concrete every other day, wimp.
April 28th, 2008 at 11:15 am
you’re an idiot, victor. the same argument over and over. go spend time with your uncle. please.
April 28th, 2008 at 11:18 am
I’ll tell you what, I’ll answer your question if you tell me the last time you had some “special time” with your uncle. LOL!
April 28th, 2008 at 11:25 am
CC — I mean VICTOR — I’m going to show you what an idiot you are. All the news reporting the charges against Akash said that he received financial aid. A student CANNOT receive this kind of aid unless they are at least a green card holder (a Permanent Resident). And yes, Akash told us that he has a green card and I have personally seen the green card. But even if one hadn’t seen it, the mere fact that he got financial aid is prof enough. And if you weren’t such a rabid idiot with an obvious vested interest in hating this kid (which makes you Victor or one of Victor’s friends), you’d have realized this a long time ago. But then again logic clearly eludes you.
And you have proven with subtle revelations in your post that you don’t know anything about Akash’s current plans, his future, or his FAMILY. So stop pretending to be a family member. It makes no sense. You are VICTOR. Or a VICTOR FRIEND.
And if you’d also read the news carefully you’d see that Akash is not going to jail. The case is being dismissed as part of A.R. It’s not even going to trail. But I guess in additiont o logic, you also cannot READ.
Ok, since I’ve answered your question, I expect an answer now to mine. Really Victor, how are things with you and your uncle?
April 28th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
“You’ll never be a yale08 or 09 or 10 or any graduate from anywhere EVER!!”
Well…I don’t know about that. Columbia has already done its own investigation as reported by the NYTimes and it seems his admission to Columbia is not in doubt or in jeopardy. He can graduate from Columbia quite easily. I think both of these boys - Victor and Akash - will be just fine in the future, once this is all behind them, and they will probably write a juicy tell-all book about this someday. LOL. I wouldn’t be surprised if Akash has already been offered a book deal, as the LA Times and other blogs suggested might happen.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
this is true. illegal immigrants can’t get financial aid. you have to be either a citizen or permanent resident.
April 28th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Akash and Victor: you are both obviously posting here or you both have friends posting here. Either way, I know you’re both reading this, so please listen carefully and take my advice. You are both BORING. Seriously. I’ve never met either of you, but constantly airing the dirty laundry you wore throughout your incredibly messy relationship in a public forum like this is just plain unhealthy and unseemly. And it is also (for both your sakes) highly unproductive. It’s clear that this relationship was toxic and traumatic for both of you, and it’s also clear that neither of you are truly “over” it. People who have moved on just don’t have this kind of investment in the past. I don’t know exactly what happened between the two of you and frankly, I don’t want to know.
Akash (or Akash’s friend/s), posting stuff about Victor’s family and friends is just sour grapes at this point. And Victor (or Victor’s friend/s), posting Akash’s SSN and hoping he gets beaten or raped is just vile. Both sides need to stop doing this and just move the heck on. You are only hurting yourselves and quite frankly, you’re not that entertaining to the rest of us.
It’s also obvious that you two are using this forum to “talk” to each other, but the “talking” is of course inflammatory and again, unproductive. This suggests to me that there are things you two still need to address or resolve. But this is not the place for it. If you really feel you need closure, contact each other privately through email or phone or whatever, say what you want to say, say how you really feel, say what you wish had happened and hadn’t happened, say anything you want to say for the ages, and then…say goodbye. And let it be done with. Or, you can do what all good WASPS do, and just keep it inside forever and let it fester until it shrivels up and dies.
So either put it inside or put it to rest but whatever you do, PUT IT AWAY. For both of your sakes.
April 28th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Yale Alum, here’s a good-natured rule of thumb. If you find my posts so boring and unseemly, skip ‘em. What’s the difficulty in that? I’m not writing for your approval, anyway.
But since I also know that YOU are reading THIS, let me give you a little piece of mind. I’m glad you’re convinced that Akash has been posting continuously here. I’m not sure what I can do to convince you that I am not Victor. And I don’t care all that much, its not a priority or anything. Thing is, I’m not him. I’m not a friend of his. I’ve never even met him. I’ve never heard of him until the Akash Maharaj media storm began. Akash has said I’m Victor so many times, the suggestion may have been put in your mind because of it, but I’m completely unrelated to that sordid sounding melodrama. I’m NOT the one who posted his Social Security number online, just so you know. That could have been Victor or one of his friends, sure. I don’t condone it. It was wrong. But I had nothing to do with it. I don’t have access to documents of the sort at all, and I wouldn’t be so stupid as to post them anyway. Simply put, anything I’ve submitted under cc is me, anything anyone else has posted not under that name is not me pretending to be someone else. Simple as that, something Akash should have learned long time ago.
And why don’t you read Victor’s wall posts again, which were posted on ivygateblog? Be truthful, do we read like we’re the same person? Victor writes like a dolt. Like an imbecile Which he is anyway for taking up with Akash. I am sorry that his name keeps getting dragged in the mud - yeah, I bear some responsibility - but that should give you a hint of the sort of person Akash is capable of. In any event, whenever Akash brings up Victor’s uncle, all I can do is laugh. He thinks it’s going to make me stop, or hurt me, or something. Barking up the wrong tree, Akahs!
Is this unproductive? I don’t know about that. I’m in a great period of my life right now, job, neighborhood, relationship, it’s all good. And I spend a few minutes confronting a tiny demon of my past. Fine with me. What does it accomplish? It makes him uncomfortable and it occupies his thoughts for the day. I hope it ruins his day, and looking at his posts, it pisses him the fuck off. Good. If I can make him feel 1/10th how he’s made other people in his life feel, then I’ve evened the scales, slightly. As for wishing rape and beatings on him, okay not so much. Although if it does happen I’ll be greeting that news with… um, indifference? I just want to put some fear into him that’s all. That he may have to look forward to it __as a consequence of HIS actions__ You reap what you sew. It’s another thing he coud learn. And if people say “vile” things like this to him, he should know what people think of him, because again, reap what you sew.
April 28th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
One more thing, Yale Alum. You say we’re both airing out dirty laundry. Both? Rethink that, please.
April 28th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
“Well…I don’t know about that. Columbia has already done its own investigation as reported by the NYTimes and it seems his admission to Columbia is not in doubt or in jeopardy.”
Really? I don’t remember reading anything like that. The only think I could find in the NY Times was the first article (I thought they wrote only one) saying “Columbia said it had ‘thoroughly reviewed this matter,’ but would not comment further.” Which essentially says nothing.
If I missed a Times article, I’ll stand corrected. Could you give a link?
April 29th, 2008 at 12:02 am
“this is true. illegal immigrants can’t get financial aid. you have to be either a citizen or permanent resident.”
Duh. Yeah we all know that, thanks. We also know you need letters of recommendation to get in and those were faked. We know you need good grades to get in and those were faked. See where I’m going with this? He’s always gaming the system.
Whatever, it wasn’t my point. Akahs is probably a resident. I was trying to pin Yale08 down, get him to admit he’s akash. How could he know something he couldn’t really know? Yeah, Akash showed him his green card LMAO!!! Lame!! :D
April 29th, 2008 at 12:11 am
“And if you’d also read the news carefully you’d see that Akash is not going to jail. The case is being dismissed as part of A.R. It’s not even going to trail. But I guess in additiont o logic, you also cannot READ.”
Stop lying, Akash. I read perfectly well, that’s not what the news says. It says that’s what you and your lawyer are trying to make a plea for. There’s been no decision on that yet. And there won’t be any decision if you don’t stop skipping your court dates like a pussy.
April 29th, 2008 at 2:16 am
“Duh. Yeah we all know that, thanks. We also know you need letters of recommendation to get in and those were faked. We know you need good grades to get in and those were faked. See where I’m going with this? He’s always gaming the system.”
My point you IDIOT, was that ANYONE should know that Akash is either a citizen or a PR because he received financial aid. And if you were half as smart as you thought you were, you’d have realized that instead of asking over and over, “How do you know Akash isn’t illegal unless you work for INS?” My point was that it was OBVIOUS. Also, you can’t fake an SSN for financial aid. It’s all tied to your immigration status and the government. And if you knew anyone who had a green card, you would know that they usually carry it around as I.D., even for clubs and bars. This is not an odd occurrence and strange as it may be for you to believe, friends of this person would then — having hung out with him in clubs or bars — have seen his green card. You also have to present it if you’re traveling which means if you travel with this person, you could also see it. And even though you might find this hard to believe, Akash does have friends who care about him, including myself. Friends who did not abandon him when this shit hit the fan and who can search the nuances and gradations of character to care about someone, to accept their flaws, to love them and yes even forgive them. A human tenderness that you seem to be sorely lacking with your multiple hateful comments. And the reason it’s obvious you are either Victor or Victor’s friend is the way you defend him — especially initially with the SSN thing. It was way to specific for a disinterested third party. I’m nit pretending to be disinterested; I admit I know Akash and care about him. But you — with an obvious slant, defending Victor and bashing Akash as if his charge was worse than killing fifty people (you said explicitly that anyone else who got raped and beaten in jail didn’t deserve it, but he did. really THIS is the worst crime you could come up with, you hateful little bitch?) — you expect us to believe you’re NOT Victor or a friend of Victor’s? Please.
And you clearly don’t understand how A.R. works. Just as you clearly didn’t understand how financial aid is obtained. I’d almost believe you’re not Victor if only because your obvious lack of logic makes you seem too stupid to be a college student. But then I’m sure Victor or his friend is capable of dumbing themselves down to create a profile here.
And please, if Akash did something so horrible to you a long time ago, why don’t you say what it is? Oh that’s right. Because there IS nothing and because this is really about Victor.
And the poster who mentioned Columbia is right. Anyone who goes there and who knows Akash knows that he has no trouble with that university. The charges came from Yale and in fact Akash still has a Columbia email. He had good grades at Columbia and good grades at Yale, and how exactly did he win an English department prize at Yale and the admiration or professors if he wasn’t a good student? And has it ever crossed your hateful, tiny mind that no one has been found guilty of any wrong doing yet?? Not to mention the fact that a student is being charged with stealing money that went STRAIGHT to the university? The L.A Times even scolded Yale for “bad form” saying (rightly) that revoking his admission was enough, but charging someone for money they GAVE TO THEMSELVES is just wrong. They’re basically punishing him for being poor, since a student who paid with his own money could not be charged. It’s not like Akash got any of this money — it all went to the school.
You really don’t know ANYTHING you’re talking about Victor’s friend…oops, I mean CC. So please, spare us.
And despite the fact that he kind of insulted all of us, I agree with a lot of what Yale Alum said actually.
April 29th, 2008 at 2:35 am
Oh and I forgot, you clearly keep changing who you are because you implied once that you were Akash’s family when you said, “some of US in your FAMILY” and then later when you were challenged on this, you changed your position to an inference of how his family felt, and now you’re implying that you’re someone he wronged in the past?? PLEASE. At least keep your fake identity straight VICTOR CAZARES OR HIS FRIEND. After all the hateful things you’ve said about Akash, I don’t believe you’d hold back if you really had something horrible to say that he “did” to you in your past. You would have called him out on it already.
Oh and I love how because I clearly showed what an idiot you were for not realizing he COULDN’T be an illegal immigrant because of the financial aid thing (which is fucking obvious), you retreated to, “Oh that wasn’t my point anyway.” Even though it was the point you kept harping on?? And you still insist no one could know Akash’s immigration status? How do you know if ANYONE is an American citizen or not then? This is an absurd statement on your part! You know when you see their passport, or some kind of I.D. or in this case, because even a retard with a GED knows that financial aid requires you to at least be a permanent resident. When I travel, I have an American passport, and that proves I’m American and friends and family have seen my passport. Just as I’m sure you present your Passport from the Land of Make Believe when you travel to and from Victor’s warped mind.
Oh and since you keep asking, I am a Yale student and a friend to Akash and if you had read my posts you’d realize that I have access to things that only a Yale student has access to — like Yale’s Official Facebook which lists who is enrolled each semester with their pictures. I told you guys that Victor is not in the Official Yale Facebook this semester which means he may not be enrolled for classes. I also told you that Victor had readings of his stupid plays at Yale this semester — only a YALE STUDENT would know these things and have access to these things. Obviously you were too dumb to pick up on that. But of course, I have proven all my points well — where I go to school, that I do know Akash, and how I know (and how ANYONE who is not a moron) would know he cannot be an illegal alien. And yet YOU have not proven how you know Akash or where you are coming from at all. So I think YOU are more suspect at this point. Clearly you are connected to Victor or Victor himself.
And anyway, you said before that was going to be your last post. Too bad you didn’t stick to it.
April 29th, 2008 at 3:05 am
“Duh. Yeah we all know that, thanks. We also know you need letters of recommendation to get in and those were faked. We know you need good grades to get in and those were faked. See where I’m going with this? He’s always gaming the system.”
there’s no way to fake the system and get financial aid though. you pretty much have to be a citizen or a green-card holder. and um…it didn’t seem like you knew that before.
April 29th, 2008 at 4:31 am
*sigh* I know I should stay out of this but since I was directly addressed, I will commit to this response.
As a recent Yale alum, let me say first of all that Yale08 is telling the truth about Yale’s online facebook. Only currently enrolled Yale students have access to it. This point is unassailable. And I checked with a friend who is still a Yale senior and indeed, Victor Cazares is not listed on Yale’s online facebook, meaning he is not currently enrolled.
CC, I must say though, despite Yale08’s foul language and tiresome posts, he has presented more coherent arguments. Even within his manic delivery of them. Not all the time of course, but specifically, the argument regarding financial aid is solid. And I think it’s silly to assume that a close friend would not know whether someone was American or not, and could not have seen something like a green card.
And yes I was (and am) convinced that Victor and Akash (or friends of both) were posting here, and Yale08 has admitted to being a friend of Akash. And since he knows things that only a Yale student could know (and things that Akash would presumably not have access to anymore) I believe him that he is indeed a friend. This doesn’t mean I believe everything Akash has told him. Let me make that clear. I don’t know Akash or Victor and I don’t care to. They both sound like they need psychological help and they aren’t the kind of guys who would have sat at my table in the dining hall. I prefer my college friends to be somewhat secure and mentally balanced. But Yale08 has offered solid arguments and convincing gestures that he is a Yale student. And if he is a friend of Akash, then I can understand why he would defend him here.
YOU on the other hand CC, with all due respect, have shifted your arguments rather obscenely. You challenged Yale08 on the issue of immigration, you were magnificently refuted (it is true that no illegal immigrant can receive financial aid) and then, instead of nobly admitting you were wrong, you impishly dismissed it, and claimed this was not your point the whole time? The above poster is correct: re-reading your numerous posts (which are equally as foul mouthed and tiresome as Yale08’s) where you challenged Yale08 and implied that no one but Akash could know his immigration status, it is clear that this was something YOU didn’t know. Many others did, but you didn’t. Or you would not have stated emphatically that there was no way someone could know this. So please, let’s not pretend it was obvious to you with your efficacious “Duh. Yeah, we all know that thanks.” You were simply ignorant on this fact. Just as you don’t seem to be aware that friends and family can be sufficiently cognizant of someone’s immigration status or citizenship. It is true, I have seen many of my friends’ passports and identification cards, and other such personal effects. I don’t see why you are subjecting Yale08 to a ridiculous standard. And I went back and looked and yes, you did imply that you were a family member of Akash and then you seemed to back away sharply from that implication. You also seem to know an alarming bit about the issue of the SSN that was posted online here, and you even defended Victor initially (“an innocent mistake” you wrote) and with the incriminating fealty of a friend, only to say later that you don’t condone posting the SSN, and that Victor is a “dolt.” The way one would if one were hastening to cover one’s tracks? Yale08 has at least been consistent in his arguments and his positions, even if they are laced with nastiness and petulance. You on the other hand have been glaringly inconsistent.
And the question he/she poses to you is a ripe one: if you despise Akash so much, then why not say what it is he supposedly did to you in the past? You don’t seem very shy about attacking him otherwise, so why be obtuse on this point only? Unless of course, the point does not exist. You do seem suspiciously invested for someone who claims not to have a dog in this fight, which immediately indicates, to any sensible mind, that you DO, and that the dog wears Victor’s collar. I’m just letting you know, from an objective standpoint, it’s more believable that Yale08 is a friend of Akash, and less believable that you are not Victor or Victor’s friend. And my point about the airing of dirty laundry on both sides was made because I believe Victor and Akash (or their friends, or both) are posting here under different names. Including Yale 08, and yes, including you, CC. I’m sorry but that is how it appears. If you are Victor or Victor’s friend, you may not have aired the dirty laundry under the pseudonym CC, but I was charging you with airing it under other names as well. And some friendly advice? If Yale08 is coming across as crazy or hateful (a meritorious charge against Yale08) well my friend, so are you. And in some ways, by dodging the standards you set (with the question of the green card, or being part of Akash’s family, or Victor and the SSN posted online), you are coming across – at times – as the less logical and the less convincing party. Which is a bit like losing a contest of sanity with the Mad Hatter as your rival. You know? For example, calling this alleged crime (and it IS alleged, as someone reminded us earlier, and I admit this point escaped me too, and so I apologize for jumping to conclusions. It is true: there has been no conviction) – calling this alleged crime the most deserving of its Accused being raped and beaten (even with all the other more heinous crimes out there) undermines the validity of your arguments and makes you look equally unbalanced. It was also easily the vilest thing posted here (which is saying something) and I’m surprised it hasn’t been removed since the moderators are usually careful about language that can seem threatening or dangerous. Not accusing you of making a threat mind you, but it could be perceived that way. I believe a Yale student was arrested for a similar post online not too long ago, so you may want to be careful about that kind of thing in the future. If you’re going to slide into the gutter, put on some shoes. You know?
Either way, my earlier point stands. These two boys are clearly reading this blog and having it out either directly or vicariously through friends. Neither of them has gotten over this experience and they need to deal with it privately rather than boring the rest of us and making an indelicate spectacle of it all.
Can we please get back to more interesting things? Like who was tapped by Skull and Bones this year? And no, I don’t care who Victor tapped and if they had sex with him to get the tap or any other such nonsense.
April 29th, 2008 at 5:31 am
“And why don’t you read Victor’s wall posts again, which were posted on ivygateblog? Be truthful, do we read like we’re the same person? Victor writes like a dolt. Like an imbecile”
Actually you write like a dolt yourself. Ever read any of victor’s plays? He’s a MUCH better writer than you.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Word. For real CC, your posts are the ones that are coming across all irrational and kinda loony right now. Like a crazy rapist/stalker. And you do jump all over the place. And I’ve been thinking this whole time that you’re this Victor kid too. And no, knowing if your friend is American and seeing his card or whatever isn’t lame or unlikely. Chill the fuck out dude.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
I’m taking time to answer you, Alum, because you I respect. But with alot of your points, you’re just off.
“As a recent Yale alum, let me say first of all that Yale08 is telling the truth about Yale’s online facebook. Only currently enrolled Yale students have access to it. This point is unassailable. And I checked with a friend who is still a Yale senior and indeed, Victor Cazares is not listed on Yale’s online facebook, meaning he is not currently enrolled.”
Okay, fine. It’s an unassailable point I never assailed in the first place. IF it’s a Victor issue, I don’t care much to address it, and I didn’t.
“CC, I must say though, despite Yale08’s foul language and tiresome posts, he has presented more coherent arguments. Even within his manic delivery of them. Not all the time of course, but specifically, the argument regarding financial aid is solid. And I think it’s silly to assume that a close friend would not know whether someone was American or not, and could not have seen something like a green card.”
Hey, ok. The point is, could a friend who knows if someone is American or not also know if his enrollment is authentic or not? Akash told lies about his family. I read people saying Akash told them he was British. Could a friend know the truth for sure if dealing with such a determined liar? And he’d have to be determined if he got into Yale on false pretences. Sure, maybe getting financial aid on a fake green card isn’t something anyone can pull off. I don’t know, I confess. If that’s the one point that’s in his favor, fine. But respectfully, Alum, you’re being naive if you don’t understand the great lengths a truly ill person can go to so as to get what he wants.
“YOU on the other hand CC, with all due respect, have shifted your arguments rather obscenely. You challenged Yale08 on the issue of immigration, you were magnificently refuted (it is true that no illegal immigrant can receive financial aid) and then, instead of nobly admitting you were wrong, you impishly dismissed it, and claimed this was not your point the whole time?”
Of course it wasn’t my point. My point was to pin Yale08 down and reveal he was Akash. I asked How do you know unless you work for the INS? My meaning was, how can you know unless you’re Akash himself? (And he first said “never mind how I know” then took about 10 days to finally “magnificently refute me”.) That’s what I was doing, setting a trap so to speak, so I couldn’t be explicit about it. But go back and read those posts. It’s not clear now that was my intent? You think I was asking for information of the system? geez. You don’t like the word “point”, call it “purpose”. That was my purpose with those questions. Clearer?
“Or you would not have stated emphatically that there was no way someone could know this. So please, let’s not pretend it was obvious to you with your efficacious ‘Duh. Yeah, we all know that thanks.’”
Hello, you’re confusing separate issues! I said we all KNOW THE RULE. Like we know the rule about getting good grades and recommendations in order to transfer. That wasn’t my question. My question was, how do we REALLY know he’s legal? Since it has been alleged (alleged, okay sure!) that OTHER things about him are fake, how can we truly know this is legitimate? After learning about all these other things he faked, why would anyone insist the truth about anything regarding him with any confidence? ok, I acknowledge he’s probably a resident, but can’t you see I’m making a broader point? There were a lot of other things he claimed to be that he’s not.
“You were simply ignorant on this fact. Just as you don’t seem to be aware that friends and family can be sufficiently cognizant of someone’s immigration status or citizenship.”
Family, yes. Friends, not necessarily. Did you read the articles? You saw how many people were surprised by the lies he told. He lied about his age. He lied about his family. Isn’t it understandible to draw the assumption further? You clearly don’t know him like I do.
“And I went back and looked and yes, you did imply that you were a family member of Akash and then you seemed to back away sharply from that implication.”
I backed away from nothing. I never once said I was a member of his family. Go back and read it. And I didn’t imply it either. I hope you’re not going by Yale08’s post above yours, because that is a deliberate MISQUOTE. “some of US in your FAMILY”. I never said that. That is a misquote (which to me is proof positive this is Akash.) I want you to verify that. What I said was “Don’t you realize you’ve made enemies your whole life? And some of us, including some people in your FAMILY, are seeing what’s happening to you, and feel no pity at all.” And what I said was the truth. And I never once said I was a family member. But I do know things.
“You also seem to know an alarming bit about the issue of the SSN that was posted online here,”
Now you’re getting into dangerous territory here. Be careful with your accusations. I only know what I saw. I saw the documents posted, they were apparently up for several hours before removal. Then I saw this blog entry as to why they were removed, the one we’re commenting on. That’s the extent that I know about this. I’m going to go through this little by little, because you put a serious accusation on me. And I hope you read this:
I wrote “And have YOU forgotten that they posted documents with SEVERAL SSN numbers?” I got that “alarming bit” of information off of the Ivyleagueblog entry we’re commenting on! It’s still there, go look.
I wrote, “In other words, if one happened to be authentic, AKASH USED SEVERAL OTHER FAKE SSNs to get himself into univerisities.” Which is true. It was on those documents that were removed. That’s what the blog entry above is about. Again, scroll upwards and see for yourself. I wrote that because no one was else was commenting on it, shifting the focus from Akash, but it was a fact.
I wrote “If one of them happened to be the real number, how are they supposed to know that? They were dealing with a psycho pathological liar. Me, I’d have thought ALL the numbers were fake. Looks like an innocent accident to me, Akash.” That’s the CONCLUSION of the motives I drew based on the documents I saw, and the blog entry I read, and the newspaper articles I read. A conclusion other people could have drawn had they taken the time to think about it.
So if there’s anything I said that suggests I know more than what was posted here, which anyone could have seen, then you better tell me now. Otherwise, don’t go down that avenue.
“and you even defended Victor initially (“an innocent mistake” (FWIW, the word was “accident”) you wrote) and with the incriminating fealty of a friend,”
Or the hostility of an enemy who never met Victor but knows Akash. Come on, please expand your mind.
“only to say later that you don’t condone posting the SSN,”
Um yeah, I thought it could have been an innocent accident, and I don’t condone it. Since when is that mutually exclusive? Yeah, I said later I don’t condone it. I had no temperment at the time to tell Akash or his friends I didn’t condone it. You’re really seeing things that aren’t there.
“and that Victor is a ‘dolt.’ The way one would if one were hastening to cover one’s tracks?”
Wow, you really know how to rationalize a pre-conceived conclusion. No, Alum, sorry. You’re way off base. When I was talking to the bunch of akash’s, I had no real interest in proving I wasn’t Victor all that much. I’m not going to call Victor a dolt to give them satisfaction. But you’re a third party. I’m going to address you differently.
Yes Alum, things really are that simple.
“And the question he/she poses to you is a ripe one: if you despise Akash so much, then why not say what it is he supposedly did to you in the past? You don’t seem very shy about attacking him otherwise, so why be obtuse on this point only?”
For my own well-being. Akash doesn’t have to know who i am, and it’s no one’s business anyway.
“You do seem suspiciously invested for someone who claims not to have a dog in this fight.”
No, I don’t have a dog in ths fight between Akash and Victor. Can you not understand Akash has been who he is before he ever met Victor?
“I’m just letting you know, from an objective standpoint, it’s more believable that Yale08 is a friend of Akash, and less believable that you are not Victor or Victor’s friend.”
Then you’ve been snowed. Not sure what else to say about it.
“And my point about the airing of dirty laundry on both sides was made because I believe Victor and Akash (or their friends, or both) are posting here under different names. Including Yale 08, and yes, including you, CC. I’m sorry but that is how it appears. If you are Victor or Victor’s friend, you may not have aired the dirty laundry under the pseudonym CC, but I was charging you with airing it under other names as well.”
Then that’s too bad. Unless the blog proprietors want to confirm I’m not in Yale or in CT at all, then there’s not much I can do about that. (No, I’m not permitting them to expose exactly where I am. I don’t want to be a target.)
“____Not accusing you of making a threat mind you,____”
Good to read. It wasn’t, hope you’re not the only one who sees that.
Hope i was able to clarify. Cheers and no hard feelings.
April 29th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
“For my own well-being. Akash doesn’t have to know who i am, and it’s no one’s business anyway.”
But that’s part of the problem CC, and I hope you can appreciate it. You have challenged everyone else to prove who they are and how they know what they know, and for his part Yale08 has done a pretty convincing job of proving that 1) he is Akash’s friend, 2) he is a Yale student and 3) he could know Akash’s immigration status. And he really didn’t have to prove any of this, but he did. Meanwhile, you refuse to offer any evidence that you are not Victor or a friend of Victor - which is fine since this is an online forum designed to be anonymous - but then you should refrain from challenging other people to substantiate everything they say. Especially when your own identity is in question. There isn’t a single poster here it seems who does not believe that you are Victor or Victor’s friend and this has undermined your arguments significantly. Even the editors believe you are Victor, and I still think you are most likely him. You come across like an arrogant bully, demanding standards from others while applying none of them to yourself. If you’re not going to air your grievance with this Akash person, then stop alluding to them, stop harassing and demanding other posters to offer evidence and elucidation, and for goodness sakes, stop posting violent innuendos. I don’t think you quite comprehend how unbalanced and dangerous you came across when you seemed to take pleasure in someone being raped and abused. I hope for your sake that no one took it seriously enough to contact the police, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. Those remarks did serious damage to your credibility and since you have offered nothing credible otherwise, you have come across as less coherent and convincing than Yale08 — which is quite an accomplishment and one of dubious honor.
And I have just realized that if you are in fact Victor, that you have done an excellent job of hijacking the topic and taking us far away from our original destination. The issue at hand is one of SSNs and the fact that someone posted another person’s SSN online. I do not want to be complicit in distracting and obfuscating that issue, especially if that is the goal of the party who posted the SSN. So let us end this discussion here or return to that pressing concern immediately. Hopefully the authorities have been contacted and are looking into the matter of the SSN. If it indeed belonged to Akash, he would need a police report to go to the Social Security Office and have his number changed (which he should certainly do). I hope whoever is responsible for posting the SSN is discovered soon and of course, I hope we learn about it so we can put the issue to rest with resounding finality.
April 29th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
It might interest CC to know that the police have been or will be contacted by Akash regarding the post about rape and abuse. As others have pointed out in this blog, it can be read as a threat. So good going there CC! Let’s hope you’re also not the person who posted the SSNs online or the police will have quite a bit to question you on. This hideous threat of rape and abuse is especially problematic when it is delivered to someone who has been the victim of abuse in the past. That’s right CC, your dear friend Victor was a real prize winner in that relationship. So go on making assumptions about his innocent he is. Oh but what am I talking about? You ARE Victor, so you obviously know all this.
And yes the issue of the posted SSN is the one that should be addressed here. Thank you Yale Alum for returning to that topic and for recognizing that the perpetrator was probably trying to distract from that topic all along.
April 29th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
CC wrote: “As for wishing rape and beatings on him, okay not so much. Although if it does happen I’ll be greeting that news with… um, indifference? I just want to put some fear into him that’s all. That he may have to look forward to it __as a consequence of HIS actions__”
duuuuude. do you realize how threatening that sounds?? if the police have been contacted (and they should be) you could be in real trouble. saying you want to put some fear into someone and then talking about that person being beaten and raped (more than once) can be construed as a violent threat. you sound like a dangerous person. i hope foe the sake of anyone in your life that someone DOES contact the police and they do find your ass.
April 29th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
“And why don’t you read Victor’s wall posts again, which were posted on ivygateblog? Be truthful, do we read like we’re the same person? Victor writes like a dolt. Like an imbecile”
LMAO! Where were you when those idiots from the drama school were going on about Victor being (I shit you not, this is an exact quote) “the greatest playwright of our generation.” HA! Victor can’t even construct an interesting facebook wall post, and he’s supposed to be the next Tennessee Williams? Please. The only thing those two have in common is that they like to suck dick. Meanwhile Akash’s Volver review and the article he wrote for the Yale Daily News last year aren’t bad. I think it’s funny that Akash won a prize for writing from the English Dep’t and Victor hasn’t won any accolades from Yale at all.