“Students of Virginity” Actually Pretty Horny

We did a mini-post yesterday on the NYT article “Students of Virginity” featuring Harvard’s True Love Revolution, Lena Chen stuffing her face with ginger cake, and our own esteemed IvyGate commenters. Today we considered writing a lengthier post deconstructing the article blow-by-(not that kind of)-blow, but then we thought, why rush this? If we’ve learned one thing from TLR it’s the value of “taking it slow.” So instead we will deal with this in painstakingly small increments, gradually, pleasurably, one baby-sized scrap of hilarity at a time. Now presenting hilarious scrap #1: TLR co-president Leo Keliher (’09) in one of the more glorious photo/caption combos of our time:
 Students of Virginity

Is that even a dorm room, or did he import a 12C monastery to sleep in? Leo’s 15 minutes of rather embarassing fame after the jump.

Now, we do have sympathy for Leo, given that his childhood souds pretty awful (father imprisoned for molestation, runaway step-dad, etc.). So nobody make pederast jokes because it’s extra-inappropriate and even grosser than usual in this context.

But you know what’s also kinda gross? The bodice-ripping romance novel Leo appears to be composing as he extols the virtues of chastity.

He described the act he has never experienced as something “breathtakingly powerful” that “lights all of your body on fire.” He spoke of his lust as “this untamed beast.”

Fredell was incredulous: “Leo said that?”

He told me that he struggles constantly against “physical lustful temptation” – that he can be aroused just by a woman’s touch, by even a look at a woman or at a photo or sometimes by “thoughts that just come out of the blue – basically pornography in my head.” They come to him when he’s merely walking around campus, or even when he’s alone in the library – “like a fly buzzing around.”

To the matter of masturbation, he said, “This was really tough for me . . . because when you have a habit that’s so deeply ingrained, it’s hard to stop.”

 Oh, Leo. Oh, Leo, Leo, Leo. Our pity for you is rivalled only by our pity for the girl you describe here:

When he finds himself aroused these days, he endures it and waits for it to pass. In this way, he said he has “matured out of that more infantile need for a woman into a recognition of self-sufficiency.” But some women, Keliher granted, continue to give him trouble.

One of these is a freshman – “a very gentle, caring soul,” he said, who “works with little kids and stuff.” Keliher can’t help thinking about her glossy hair and beautiful skin.

How much you want to bet some freshman chick filed a restraining order against this guy today? Leo’s co-president, the clearly more PR-savvy Janie Fredell might want to consider distancing herself from Keliher, too:

Another appears to be Janie Fredell. Keliher smiled and said he was “a little bit” attracted to her – “in very superficial ways,” he added. “It’s something we laugh about – if we dated.”

But Fredell did not laugh. “No!” she erupted, and with increasing volume, “No! No! No! I can’t emphasize enough that there is nothing between me and Leo! It’s just that we’re not compatible in that regard.”

Oh, Leo. We continue to shake our heads in chagrined pity.

  • hy

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    whore whore slut

  • gayalie’10

    poor guy. he’s cute too. maybe nerd cute, but that’s why i’m at an ivy. i can’t imagine he likes inducing head-porn in boys, but he shouldn’t have been so visceral and open in his descriptions… anyway, he’s struggling, but he’s so hung-up on the idea that one can’t have a fulfilling relationship or sex without marriage that he’s may end up with a very unfulfilling marriage for a while.

  • gayalie’10

    poor guy. he’s cute too. maybe nerd cute, but that’s why i’m at an ivy. i can’t imagine he likes inducing head-porn in boys, but he shouldn’t have been so visceral and open in his descriptions… anyway, he’s struggling, but he’s so hung-up on the idea that one can’t have a fulfilling relationship or sex without marriage that he’s may end up with a very unfulfilling marriage for a while.

  • Sex Toy Partier

    As one of the organizers of Princeton’s sex toy parties, I just thought I’d correct the story. We don’t hand out free sex toys to any rando walking around on campus and tell him/her that masturbation is really fun and morally ok (unless they ask, of course). People willfully enter raffles, attend sex toy parties, or otherwise request to obtain sex toys. While we advertise the sex toy party (which, by the way, is a pretty tame educational event hosted by a sex toy salesperson) to the entire student body, we do not pass judgment on anyone who doesn’t wish to attend. In contrast, our counterparts in Anscombe consistently write op-eds in the Prince and invite speakers to campus denouncing the evils of sex, masturbation, and the “hook-up culture” (whatever that means). While they have every right to do so, many find this offensive because it is a claim of moral superiority. Princeton Pro-Choice, on the other hand, is simply providing an educational service for any interested students. We see masturbation and consensual sex as amoral activities that should be made as safe and pleasurable as possible through education and health care services.

  • Sex Toy Partier

    As one of the organizers of Princeton’s sex toy parties, I just thought I’d correct the story. We don’t hand out free sex toys to any rando walking around on campus and tell him/her that masturbation is really fun and morally ok (unless they ask, of course). People willfully enter raffles, attend sex toy parties, or otherwise request to obtain sex toys. While we advertise the sex toy party (which, by the way, is a pretty tame educational event hosted by a sex toy salesperson) to the entire student body, we do not pass judgment on anyone who doesn’t wish to attend. In contrast, our counterparts in Anscombe consistently write op-eds in the Prince and invite speakers to campus denouncing the evils of sex, masturbation, and the “hook-up culture” (whatever that means). While they have every right to do so, many find this offensive because it is a claim of moral superiority. Princeton Pro-Choice, on the other hand, is simply providing an educational service for any interested students. We see masturbation and consensual sex as amoral activities that should be made as safe and pleasurable as possible through education and health care services.

  • Tired

    I hope IvyGate does not publish a series of articles about this. You got your cheap shots in, so move on!

  • Tired

    I hope IvyGate does not publish a series of articles about this. You got your cheap shots in, so move on!

  • @no difference

    Yawn. What a straw man argument. Liberals do tolerate TLR, Anscombe, etc. As I understand it, there are no gangs of liberals trying to shut those organizations down or otherwise preventing anyone who wants to be abstinent from being abstinent. Lets face it, the kid who decided to describe his non-sex life to a national newspaper is kinda pathetic. Thats the caveat that comes along with free speech. You can say whatever you like, but other people can and will call you out if what you’re saying is rubbish.

  • @no difference

    Yawn. What a straw man argument. Liberals do tolerate TLR, Anscombe, etc. As I understand it, there are no gangs of liberals trying to shut those organizations down or otherwise preventing anyone who wants to be abstinent from being abstinent. Lets face it, the kid who decided to describe his non-sex life to a national newspaper is kinda pathetic. Thats the caveat that comes along with free speech. You can say whatever you like, but other people can and will call you out if what you’re saying is rubbish.

  • sats

    Liberal students don’t like these groups because they actively discourage sex and try to make those of us having it feel like we’re going to hell. Pro-sex, or at least, non-anti sex groups on campuses don’t tell people that abstaining is immoral or evil. In general, these extremist abstinence groups are louder than any other voice on the matter. Princeton has a new sex blogger, for all you liberals out there: http://dpstreet.blogspot.com/

  • sats

    Liberal students don’t like these groups because they actively discourage sex and try to make those of us having it feel like we’re going to hell. Pro-sex, or at least, non-anti sex groups on campuses don’t tell people that abstaining is immoral or evil. In general, these extremist abstinence groups are louder than any other voice on the matter. Princeton has a new sex blogger, for all you liberals out there: http://dpstreet.blogspot.com/

  • Leo Keliher ’10

    For the benefit of anyone who would like to hear the whole story:

    Randall Patterson misused my quotations by leaving out their context, giving the appearance of inflated problems. I included important general comments about how most men in our culture live at a hyper-stimulated level of sexual arousal, fed by pornography, their own fantasy, advertising, women’s fashion choices, etc. This is thought of as the norm, and people don’t realize is that it’s not a natural state. Our bodies and minds react directly to the input we give them, so the less sexual stuff we put into our heads, the easier it is to control sexual urges. Similarly, if you stop pouring gasoline on a fire it goes down to a normal level.
    My comment about lust as an “untamed beast” is not about the strength of my lust, but rather its nature: if given free rein it seeks only its own gratification. A chaste man has the self-control to not focus on or react to different sexual stimuli that cross his path (images, thoughts, touch, etc.). This means his lust has less and less power, and a man becomes more able to love and respect women for who they are, not just how they arouse him. By making a parody of me, Mr. Patterson has perpetuated the myth that controlling your sexuality is equal to repression. In truth, a chaste lifestyle is liberating and empowering, allowing full comfort with your sexuality by taking away its unnatural addiction to stimulation.

    I’ll refrain from addressing the issues and misconceptions that appear here, but it’s too bad we don’t have more maturity in the Ivy Leauge. Oh, and I’m a sophomore, not a junior.

  • Leo Keliher ’10

    For the benefit of anyone who would like to hear the whole story:

    Randall Patterson misused my quotations by leaving out their context, giving the appearance of inflated problems. I included important general comments about how most men in our culture live at a hyper-stimulated level of sexual arousal, fed by pornography, their own fantasy, advertising, women’s fashion choices, etc. This is thought of as the norm, and people don’t realize is that it’s not a natural state. Our bodies and minds react directly to the input we give them, so the less sexual stuff we put into our heads, the easier it is to control sexual urges. Similarly, if you stop pouring gasoline on a fire it goes down to a normal level.
    My comment about lust as an “untamed beast” is not about the strength of my lust, but rather its nature: if given free rein it seeks only its own gratification. A chaste man has the self-control to not focus on or react to different sexual stimuli that cross his path (images, thoughts, touch, etc.). This means his lust has less and less power, and a man becomes more able to love and respect women for who they are, not just how they arouse him. By making a parody of me, Mr. Patterson has perpetuated the myth that controlling your sexuality is equal to repression. In truth, a chaste lifestyle is liberating and empowering, allowing full comfort with your sexuality by taking away its unnatural addiction to stimulation.

    I’ll refrain from addressing the issues and misconceptions that appear here, but it’s too bad we don’t have more maturity in the Ivy Leauge. Oh, and I’m a sophomore, not a junior.

  • @Leo

    Inquiring minds want to know… why DID you give so much personal information to a NY Times reporter? I mean, you had to know that you wouldn’t be portrayed in the most flattering light, right?

  • @Leo

    Inquiring minds want to know… why DID you give so much personal information to a NY Times reporter? I mean, you had to know that you wouldn’t be portrayed in the most flattering light, right?

  • @@no difference

    thank you, commodore douche, for being the arbiter of cool and letting us all know when something is “kinda pathetic.” I have a hat that I was thinking of wearing sideways and your I welcome your thoughts. But as long as we are not discussing how to project a superficial air of superiority please shut the hell up and leave the conversation to those with real ideas and thoughtful input.

  • @@no difference

    thank you, commodore douche, for being the arbiter of cool and letting us all know when something is “kinda pathetic.” I have a hat that I was thinking of wearing sideways and your I welcome your thoughts. But as long as we are not discussing how to project a superficial air of superiority please shut the hell up and leave the conversation to those with real ideas and thoughtful input.

  • @@@no difference

    Meh. I reserve the right to mock anyone who thinks that everyone in America should know about their sexual urges. There is really no difference between this guy and Lena Chan. Both of them are attention whores. I really don’t understand what the appeal of sharing the details of your sexuality with the world is. I mean go ahead and fuck – or don’t fuck, whatever makes you happy- but keep it to yourself.

  • @@@no difference

    Meh. I reserve the right to mock anyone who thinks that everyone in America should know about their sexual urges. There is really no difference between this guy and Lena Chan. Both of them are attention whores. I really don’t understand what the appeal of sharing the details of your sexuality with the world is. I mean go ahead and fuck – or don’t fuck, whatever makes you happy- but keep it to yourself.

  • @@@@no difference

    dude… this is ivygate. we love attention whores who kiss (or don’t kiss) and tell all. if you don’t wanna hear about that stuff, you should probably stay away from gossip blogs. just a thought.

  • @@@@no difference

    dude… this is ivygate. we love attention whores who kiss (or don’t kiss) and tell all. if you don’t wanna hear about that stuff, you should probably stay away from gossip blogs. just a thought.

  • “Meh…?”

    anymore great lines? perhaps, “arg” or “wha?” Try expressing yourself with words and sentences and not apathetic disfluencies.

    Also, maybe you should try reading the thread that you are posting on before commenting. The kid clarified your argument not three posts above you.

    Finally, because I too enjoy ridiculing foolishness, you dont understand the point of broadcasting sexual preferences but clearly the only point of your original post was to distinguish yourself from him by making fun of his “non-sex life.” So congratulations on finding another human being who also communicates through interjections. We re all impressed.

  • “Meh…?”

    anymore great lines? perhaps, “arg” or “wha?” Try expressing yourself with words and sentences and not apathetic disfluencies.

    Also, maybe you should try reading the thread that you are posting on before commenting. The kid clarified your argument not three posts above you.

    Finally, because I too enjoy ridiculing foolishness, you dont understand the point of broadcasting sexual preferences but clearly the only point of your original post was to distinguish yourself from him by making fun of his “non-sex life.” So congratulations on finding another human being who also communicates through interjections. We re all impressed.

  • Arg

    The only point of my original point was to say that Liberals are not obligated to encourage this sort of thing.

  • Arg

    The only point of my original point was to say that Liberals are not obligated to encourage this sort of thing.

  • 28-year-old

    Hey, it’s your big sister speaking:

    1. In a few years you’ll all mellow out in all ways.

    2. The way Janie Fredell “erupts” with NO NO NOs is the most heartless act I’ve heard about in a while. Does any kid need to be publicly rejected like that when you are talking to a reporter from the NYT, Janie?

    3. To whoever posted that most guys would prefer a girl like Janie: in a few years most of you will figure out that a girl can be totally chaste and still be out to pussywhip you. Be careful what you wish for.

  • 28-year-old

    Hey, it’s your big sister speaking:

    1. In a few years you’ll all mellow out in all ways.

    2. The way Janie Fredell “erupts” with NO NO NOs is the most heartless act I’ve heard about in a while. Does any kid need to be publicly rejected like that when you are talking to a reporter from the NYT, Janie?

    3. To whoever posted that most guys would prefer a girl like Janie: in a few years most of you will figure out that a girl can be totally chaste and still be out to pussywhip you. Be careful what you wish for.

  • 28-year-old

    Hey, it’s your big sister speaking:

    1. In a few years you’ll all mellow out in all ways.

    2. The way Janie Fredell “erupts” with NO NO NOs is the most heartless act I’ve heard about in a while. Does any kid need to be publicly rejected like that when you are talking to a reporter from the NYT, Janie?

    3. To whoever posted that most guys would prefer a girl like Janie: in a few years most of you will figure out that a girl can be totally chaste and still be out to pussywhip you. Be careful what you wish for.

    4. Best wishes to Leo. It’s always good to see people who are not afraid to be sincere and honest (or are brave enough to be sincere and honest despite their fears). Sex is not really that momentous, though. It’s far more important to never break a trust than to never have sex.

  • 28-year-old

    Hey, it’s your big sister speaking:

    1. In a few years you’ll all mellow out in all ways.

    2. The way Janie Fredell “erupts” with NO NO NOs is the most heartless act I’ve heard about in a while. Does any kid need to be publicly rejected like that when you are talking to a reporter from the NYT, Janie?

    3. To whoever posted that most guys would prefer a girl like Janie: in a few years most of you will figure out that a girl can be totally chaste and still be out to pussywhip you. Be careful what you wish for.

    4. Best wishes to Leo. It’s always good to see people who are not afraid to be sincere and honest (or are brave enough to be sincere and honest despite their fears). Sex is not really that momentous, though. It’s far more important to never break a trust than to never have sex.

  • inno

    Everyone should read Michel Houellebecq’s “Extension of the domain of the struggle” (also known in English as “Extension of the battlefield” and “Whatever”). Great analysis of commodification of sex and the consequences of that for the proletariat.

  • inno

    Everyone should read Michel Houellebecq’s “Extension of the domain of the struggle” (also known in English as “Extension of the battlefield” and “Whatever”). Great analysis of commodification of sex and the consequences of that for the proletariat.

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  • Cornell Pooch

    May God have mercy on our Ivy pedigreed souls.

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