I really agree with “no longer disturbed at pton.” I saw Josh today, and I was skeptical at first, but after seeing him today, I came away thinking he is a very good guy. He seemed to really have learned from his mistakes, and this will make him an even more powerful representative for us if he’s elected next week. I wasn’t planning on voting for him before the meeting today, but now I think I will.

The majority of comments on this page are alarming, especially the enlightened person who adamantly states that Al Jolson was not racist. I’m sorry, did you know him personally? Because most the “achievements” of his career would seem to suggest otherwise to any lucid human being. Or did he have black gardeners and househelp, or perhaps occasionally walk by black people on the sidewalk on his way to his minstrel shows? In that case he is definitely not racist.

I’m always impressed by how quickly and readily people jump to someone’s defense when they do something racist. “I really don’t think Josh is a racist, I really don’t think Josh is a racist blah blah blah.” Why is this exactly? I propose a three pronged system for assessing whether his (and other people in similar cases) actions are defensible.

First, Do you know him? Secondly, has he ever done or said anything racially insensitive to you? Thirdly, and most importantly, ARE YOU WHITE???? Because excuse my presumptuousness, but my white friends (and trust me I have many, probably more than you have black friends) HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED RACISM VERY OFTEN, AND VERY OFTEN IN MOST CASES MEANS NEVER. This is a point that is conveniently lost on many people on this page. Maybe, if you have never experienced racism, are not black, and are arguing that blackface for halloween is not offensive, then you are somewhat misguided and/or not in a position to add anything meaningful to a conversation about what is racist and what isn’t.

I should make clear that I do not know Weinstein, but I am not white and have experienced racism. So I am not prepared to say he his racist, but you all definitely do not have cause to say that he is not. That said, the zeal with which is actions have been defended is typical of clueless people who don’t have a clue about American history, and the world we live in today.

It would take a whole other posting to address how almost y everyone has evading discussing the “black man group” which included Josh Weinstein as shadow/Rick James, and two other idiots as Rosa Parks and Malcom X. Rosa Parks was a black woman actually, for any of you unfamiliar with that particular allusion.

I’d be really interested in anyone who could explain to me how Weinstein’s idea to post that his costume depicted a shadow/Rick James is ok. But I am probably just being silly. It’s the slash-shadow part that makes it ok, right?

The majority of comments on this page are alarming, especially the enlightened person who adamantly states that Al Jolson was not racist. I’m sorry, did you know him personally? Because most the “achievements” of his career would seem to suggest otherwise to any lucid human being. Or did he have black gardeners and househelp, or perhaps occasionally walk by black people on the sidewalk on his way to his minstrel shows? In that case he is definitely not racist.

I’m always impressed by how quickly and readily people jump to someone’s defense when they do something racist. “I really don’t think Josh is a racist, I really don’t think Josh is a racist blah blah blah.” Why is this exactly? I propose a three pronged system for assessing whether his (and other people in similar cases) actions are defensible.

First, Do you know him? Secondly, has he ever done or said anything racially insensitive to you? Thirdly, and most importantly, ARE YOU WHITE???? Because excuse my presumptuousness, but my white friends (and trust me I have many, probably more than you have black friends) HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED RACISM VERY OFTEN, AND VERY OFTEN IN MOST CASES MEANS NEVER. This is a point that is conveniently lost on many people on this page. Maybe, if you have never experienced racism, are not black, and are arguing that blackface for halloween is not offensive, then you are somewhat misguided and/or not in a position to add anything meaningful to a conversation about what is racist and what isn’t.

I should make clear that I do not know Weinstein, but I am not white and have experienced racism. So I am not prepared to say he his racist, but you all definitely do not have cause to say that he is not. That said, the zeal with which is actions have been defended is typical of clueless people who don’t have a clue about American history, and the world we live in today.

It would take a whole other posting to address how almost y everyone has evading discussing the “black man group” which included Josh Weinstein as shadow/Rick James, and two other idiots as Rosa Parks and Malcom X. Rosa Parks was a black woman actually, for any of you unfamiliar with that particular allusion.

I’d be really interested in anyone who could explain to me how Weinstein’s idea to post that his costume depicted a shadow/Rick James is ok. But I am probably just being silly. It’s the slash-shadow part that makes it ok, right?

p09: This is in response to po9 who claimed that a white person wearing a black face is the same thing as a black person wearing a white face, and that people would not be enraged if this occurred.
Dear p09,
I have to assume that based upon your argument that you have either (a) been living under a rock your entire life, (b) were drunk when you had the thought, and decided to type it or (c) never got past an elementary school education. My guess is C so I am going to talk to you like a child and explain to you why what you just said is so far beyond dumb that I had trouble believing someone actually wrote it. So, there was this thing called the Middle Passage where a bunch of WHITE people took a bunch of black people from Africa in chains, against their will, to a country called America. These BLACK people were then enslaved for about 200 years. Finally, these BLACK people were “set free,” however, these BLACK people, in the white peoples eyes, were still seen as lesser individuals. For forms on entertainment, these white people thought it would be funny to make fun of these black people in various forms i.e. plays, vaudevillian shows, and later movies. Black people at this time were not allowed to be hired for these events so in order for the white people to make fun of the black people, the white people had to wear BLACKFACE. This trend continued for over 50 years. So, as you can see, there is a history of white people wearing black face that is extremely racist, insulting, and in no logical sense O.K.
Now, lets examine the history of black people wearing white face….wait, there isn’t any.
Read a book, take a soc class, get your head out of your ass.
Sincerely,
someone with a brain
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p09: This is in response to po9 who claimed that a white person wearing a black face is the same thing as a black person wearing a white face, and that people would not be enraged if this occurred.
Dear p09,
I have to assume that based upon your argument that you have either (a) been living under a rock your entire life, (b) were drunk when you had the thought, and decided to type it or (c) never got past an elementary school education. My guess is C so I am going to talk to you like a child and explain to you why what you just said is so far beyond dumb that I had trouble believing someone actually wrote it. So, there was this thing called the Middle Passage where a bunch of WHITE people took a bunch of black people from Africa in chains, against their will, to a country called America. These BLACK people were then enslaved for about 200 years. Finally, these BLACK people were “set free,” however, these BLACK people, in the white peoples eyes, were still seen as lesser individuals. For forms on entertainment, these white people thought it would be funny to make fun of these black people in various forms i.e. plays, vaudevillian shows, and later movies. Black people at this time were not allowed to be hired for these events so in order for the white people to make fun of the black people, the white people had to wear BLACKFACE. This trend continued for over 50 years. So, as you can see, there is a history of white people wearing black face that is extremely racist, insulting, and in no logical sense O.K.
Now, lets examine the history of black people wearing white face….wait, there isn’t any.
Read a book, take a soc class, get your head out of your ass.
Sincerely,
someone with a brain
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You people at Princeton are ridiculous. Raise your hand if you’ve never done anything stupid. The guy said he was sorry. Can’t you all just move on?

Okay, what does it say about a world where we automatically feel people are out to get us?

Let me start out with this. I am black. I saw these pics when they were first posted. I was not offended. Why? Because somehow I’ve escaped the persecution complex that seems to haunt members of every minority race that EVERYONE WHO DOES SOMETHING NO ANYTHING is out to get them. We see this time and time again. Black people have a history of being persecuted, yes. Is Josh Weinstein a perpetrator? No. He was a kid dressed as a shadow, that made an insensitive comment he didn’t think was a big deal. And honestly, if he didn’t mean anything by it, why do we have to inflame it? Why do we have to turn this into “J.W is a racist”? That wasn’t the intent of the message. And how many of you have never thought a racially insensitive thought? I have. Once, in high school, a white girl was trying out for the hip hop team, and I thought she wouldn’t be as good as the others. Racial Stereotyping. She proved me wrong of course, but that doesn’t mean i was reformed and have never thought something for a quick second before I could overcome the social conditioning and realize it was BS. The kid did something three years ago that some people took offense to because they chose to be offended. And I do mean chose. I think it is very clear that he did not mean to be a racist based on the post itself. He was having fun. I can envision a response. “What does that say about his character that he didn’t think that was offensive?” It says that his character probably grew up without tons of black people around, and so he never learned what would be taken the wrong way. He has probably learned since then. Josh Weinstein has a lot of friends– of all races. I’m not even sure he notices their races.

I think the overarching issue here is why have we become so willing to take offense in today’s world. People of all races are up in arms about things that in the long run, really aren’t worth as much indignation as they are recieving. Why are we even thinking about this when we’ve got the Jena 6 to worry about, a chimpanzee for president, and people of all colors dying overseas. Do we really need the focus that an event like this causes so much?

If yes, then it makes me really upset that people waste so much effort on something that to me, seems like another stupid frat idea, as they all are.

I’m a little suspect of his actions because of the blog post. If he had indeed just dressed as a shadow, a cool costume idea I must admit, then I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. Then he has to add his friends as Rosa Parks and Malcolm X? Give me a break.

It was 3 years ago, but as enlightening as a Princeton education is (especially in terms of race…), this kind of insensitivity doesn’t go away easily.

Josh is absolutely not racist, and whoever thinks so clearly doesn’t know him at all. Perhaps it was a stupid thing to do because it could be interpreted that way, but I think a lot of people are just trying to read into this too much. Also, Sarah Langberg would not stoop to this, if you know her either. The fact that Josh was so upset that he could barely answer questions is a testament to the fact that this truly surprised him and was not at all his intention.

Furthermore, if someone of another race painted their face black to be a shadow for Halloween, how many people would have said that he or she was racist? Racism isn’t just a black and white thing…

How can this post be construed as slanderous, libelous, or anything remotely resembling such? It simply repeats material that Weinstein POSTED HIMSELF on the internet. I’m also disgusted that Josh’s friends and people who “know him personally” have used this fact to somehow purport that he isn’t to blame at all for his actions. Racist or not, Weinstien’s actions call his judgment, consideration for minorities, and viability as a candidate into question.

I don’t even know Josh personally, but I do know that he has a reputation for being one of the greatest guys in the class of ’09. He wouldn’t be so universally well-liked and respected if this kind of behavior were a true reflection of his charecter.

I would buy what he’s trying to sell in the absence of the Rick James bit.

I don’t pretend to fully understand the painful experiences of African-Americans in this country. Even though I didn’t attend grade school here, I’ve done my research and black face is certainly racially insensitive even without malicious intent. I’m surprised that so many Americans don’t seem to understand this. It’s a part of American history and it should certainly be taught in schools. I’m told that this isn’t the case. If it were, I’d be more likely to view this as malicious.

A real possibility is that he sent them himself to generate buzz. Perhaps a member of the “black man group” or an ex of his did this. Who uses up precious memory for another person’s photos? I don’t even save most of my own pictures. Regardless, he did this to himself and in it’s entirety, I don’t buy his excuse.

blackface is the new black

Black face, yellow face and red face are ALWAYS racist when done by a white person.

The ‘original intent’ of BF was to mock and demonize African-American people, thus when whites do it today it is still racist. I hope that one day BF is made into a hate crime.

White people always seem to look at the ‘intent’ but Black people look at the ‘end result’ and that is, BF done today, conjures up ‘memories’ of the original intent.

A few years ago, Prince Harry wore a Nazi uniform to a costume party and the Jewish community took offence, I am sure that Prince Harry did not “INTEND” to cause pain, but the Jewish community looked at the “end result” and were hurt.

Only a white racist of the highest order would wear BF, and it is even more sad and ironic when a Jewish person wears it.

Remember, BF is (((ALWAYS))) racist, there is no harmless way a white person can use it.

What about the movie White Chicks?

There is NO racist history behind WF, that film was all in good fun, it grossed 77 million and there were NO protests from white people, white face does NOT equal black face.

Sounds like all of you who justify the dumb ass kids actions as just a joke are so insensitve to what the world is going through that you can’t smell shit from roses you want to look at the future and believe that there are no consequence for you dumb actions the idiot doesn’t know the defamation of character he has portrayed and thinks that his faggot friends wil get him off the hook by posting love stories about him well keep in mind dork politics will stay with you forever and you will never gain the minority vote in the real world sorry for your luck jack wad.