Cornell named “Hottest Ivy,” Harvard Biggest Prude
The hot 25 opens with "Hottest Ivy" Cornell University:
Unlike the other Ivies, Cornell is a land-grant college emphasizing problem solving as well as scholarly debate. The university boasts a world-class engineering college and top-flight liberal arts, science and fine arts. The hotel school is considered the world's best. Cornellians, proud of the variety on campus, point to the president, David Skorton, a cardiologist, jazz musician and computer scientist who is the first in his family to have a college education.
Now, land-grant universities are fine and good, but they haven't exactly been cutting edge since, oh, 1862. Other than Newsweek's desire to christen some random underdog the "next big thing," is there any reason for Cornell to be so hot right now? Regardless, Psych101 taught us that self-fulfilling prophecies totally work. So congrats, Cornell! Jon Stewart called you a "frozen hellscape," but now you're on fire.
"Hottest for Rejecting You" goes to the crimson prude, Harvard, for rejecting 91.03% of applicants for the class of 2011. Though Columbia College proved marginally more frigid by rejecting 91.05% of her high school suitors, sluttish acceptance rates at the Columbia's School of Engineering and Applied Science, and School of General Studies, reduced net exclusivity.
Of course, the hot Ivies hold not a candle to "Hottest in the War on Terror" winner New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, which is "in some ways the Los Alamos of a new age, this time focusing on searching suitcases and disabling roadside explosives rather than building the A-bomb." Majoring in airport security, minoring in explosive-sniffing dogs, the average NMT student also has robust social life, due to the availability of pick-up lines like "Want to help me study for full-body cavity search class?" Works like a charm.
EDIT: Looks like "Hottest for Liberal Arts" Princeton University isn't so hot at teaching reading skills, because I totally missed its inclusion in the 25 hot colleges list. Thanks to Cayuga and MITBitch for noticing. Newsweek emphasizes Princeton's grant-only financial aid department and intellectual life. --MAUREEN O'CONNOR
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August 12th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
“Other than Newsweek’s desire to christen some random underdog the “next big thing,” is there any reason for Cornell to be so hot right now?”
a) I think its due to the fact that their applications have increased by the greatest percentage in recent years
b) You sound bitter, perhaps because your Princeton wasn’t chosen
August 12th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
“a world-class engineering college” ??? — Uh, Cornell isn’t even in the US Top 10. I would not say that’s world class. At best they are a Second Tier in the world-wide rankings.
August 12th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Bah. What an absolutely awful, idiotic article. I’m not quite certain why UCLA is the best ‘mega’ university, while Madison is the best ‘big state’ school, and not the other way around. But I suppose it sells magazines.
@Sour Grapes: If you would have read the article, you would have seen that Princeton was actually chosen as the best liberal arts experience. What the Princeton engineers think about this, I don’t know, but Maureen probably didn’t want to rub it in. Either that, or she’s too embarrassed to admit that a lot of Princeton’s famous faculty have embarrassingly light teaching loads.
August 12th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Hottest for Liberal Arts - Princeton University, Princeton, N.J.
August 12th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Harvard more selective than Columbia because of SEAS and GS? What about gaping-open-gash-to-anyone-with-enough-
money-for-a-couple-of-credits Harvard Extension School?
Even Columbia Fucking Continuing Education turns people away. You wanna talk about copyright dilution? Rules that specifically require you explain you didn’t graduate from Harvard College, Hillary Duff–how could you get any lower than HES???
August 12th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
@Harvard? “how could you get any lower than HES???” You can. It’s called Brown.
August 12th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
Cornell Engineering is the most world-class thing about Cornell.
Also, I anticipate the disagreement with Newsweek’s choice of Cornell as a “hot” school is somewhat derived from our perceived lowly status amongst other Ivy Leaguers. For the most part, a school’s prestige results from the difficulty of admission. Cornell’s overall acceptance rate has plummeted in the past few years and now ranks only a few percentage points below Penn and Dartmouth. In addition, by factoring in the unfortunate status of land-grant colleges and subsequent favoring of NY students, it becomes clear that the acceptance rate of our private colleges (like engineering) and for non-NY students is on par with all other Ivies.
August 12th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Thanks, Maureen, for calling an 18% acceptance rate at Columbia SEAS sluttish. You have proven yourself to be a complete pretentious jackass. That acceptance rate is just about the rate of Brown, Cornell, Dmouth, and Penn. Maureen. Please go away.
And how may more College kids are there at Columbia than Engineering ones?
August 12th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
@CU-Engineer -
Honestly, don’t bother trying to defend Cornell to these people. Unlike the douches who run this blog, Newsweek doesn’t evaluate colleges on whether or not their motto is in English.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
calling acceptance rates at seas and gs sluttish is right on. mostly because, only in the ivy league would an 18 percent chance be considered ‘easy.’
i’m off to a ten-cent hooker of a grad school.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Why must we all be such negative nancies? I, for one, found the graphic brilliant.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Because Maureen is working at the “prestigous” ivygate.com, I hope the 82% that got rejected from Columbia SEAS can find work…(I mean you must be an idiot to be rejected from a school with an 18% acceptance rate).
August 12th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
acceptance rate comparison is tacky y’all
August 12th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
I can think of many reasons why Cornell is hot. From a rigor perspective: Engineering, Hotel, and Architecture Art & Planning really are top-notch. (MITbitch: Bill Gates revamped Microsoft’s internet strategy after a visit to Cornell, not MIT. Go skulk back into building #13 or whatever.) From a marketing standpoint, they ditched the shitty Big Red Box and refocused on the seal and a shortening of Ezra’s words. Good call. And from a funding perspective, the land-grant status makes for a great diversity of courses. Cornell is a little unique in that way. (It also means that the endowed colleges get to look down on the land grant colleges. Fine by me!)
But does this all make Cornell the “Hottest Ivy”? Oh my goodness how irrelevant a question that is. I’d hope that most of us would be intelligent enough to ignore Newsweek’s opinion of what’s hot or not.
But I will agree that Princeton and Columbia have poor engineering schools. It’s not just acceptance rate; the people I’ve met from there all seemed to be lazy or high.
August 13th, 2007 at 1:25 am
Dartmouth owns like 3% of New Hampshire. Suddenly Cornell’s land grand seems less impressive.
August 13th, 2007 at 1:30 am
CLAREMONT?! “hottest for election year?!” Whoever wrote this Newsweek piece of shit article needs to actually do some research instead of getting off on how wonderful Harvard is, even thought its own students hate it. Dartmouth is in New Hampshire, New Hampshire has an average of 2 presidential candidates there every day. The MSNBC Democratic debate is hosted at Dartmouth in September. Fuck Claremont, this author obviously got rejected from Dartmouth back in the day.
August 13th, 2007 at 1:35 am
Yeah, this author’s a dipshit. UT-Austin is famous for sucking in all areas.
August 13th, 2007 at 2:55 am
GO BIG GREEN.
August 13th, 2007 at 9:20 am
“Whoever wrote this Newsweek piece of shit article needs to actually do some research instead of getting off on how wonderful Harvard is, even thought its own students hate it.” Hey…I don’t hate it!
August 13th, 2007 at 9:20 am
@Lynah Faithful, you’re misusing anecdotal evidence; you can’t generalize the engineering schools by going off of whom you met from them. As much as I distrust US News and World report and the importance of acceptance rates in determining a school’s worth, both sources are more objective than hasty generalizations and both favor Columbia and Princeton engineering over other Ivies like Harvard and Yale (at least for graduate school: http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/eng/brief/engrank_brief.php)
August 13th, 2007 at 9:22 am
Well actually, delete “and the importance of acceptance rates” since I don’t really have a source for that.
August 13th, 2007 at 9:52 am
these editors are catching on quickly. Not only did they offer up a way in which the Ivies are compared (instant 15+ comments there), they managed to put Cornell on the top at the time (instant 30+ comments, easily).
Bravo!
PS - a Columbia Engineer, I can assure you that CU undergrad engineering is meh, but grad is fantastic. We are a research university after all…
August 13th, 2007 at 10:32 am
@columbiatch2010: I didn’t use anecdotal evidence to prove a point; I used it to take the piss out of people like yourself. I’d say that’s a proper use.
US News? The undergrad glory hole of college rankings? I think you’re a bit generous using objective in the same sentence. And weren’t we talking about undergrad engineering?
August 13th, 2007 at 10:45 am
More use of anecdotal evidence:
@columbiatch2010: 2010, huh? Have you taken anything beyond basic core and intro to engineering yet? Have you even declared a major? What if you bail out for sociology or education?
P.S. Are YOU high? (I won’t tell anyone. Promise.)
August 13th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
i love this blog.
August 13th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
OMG Cornell >>>>>>>>>>>>> Harvard, Yale and Princeton…COMBINED!!!!
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August 13th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
i dont even care about this… but the extreme level of how gay that last comment was has motivated me to point it out.
In fact, a lot of comments here are pretty stupid. Cornell had the biggest increase in applicants and activity as of late so it got the nod in this article. It doesn’t even mean its the best, cuz obviously HYP have an edge… but it is hot right now… no go fondle your prostates and argue about this more queers
August 13th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
@Lynah Faithful
Well, if you knew anything about Columbia Engineering, you’d know that you can’t easily switch between SEAS and CC. Also, I’m not high, try again.
You may not agree with USNWR, but it’s the most cited college ranking system out there right now. I only linked to their graduate rankings because it was all I could find at the moment, but you’ll the same is true for the undergraduate rankings (regarding Columbia and Princeton vs. the other Ivies excluding than Cornell):
http://www.sandiego.edu/engineering/news_events/news_details/cbeng06.pdf
Just admit it, you made a pretty bad generalization.
August 13th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
@columbia2010er: No easy switch to CC? Even as a sophomore? Because SEAS admissions standards are too low?
Regarding the USNWR link for undergrad, note that:
- Cornell is the highest ranked Ivy League school (#10);
- Cornell is the only Ivy to appear in the top 5 specialty lists (appearing twice);
- Princeton is ranked #11; and,
- Columbia clocks in at a sluttish #25 (tied, so 25-28, really).
You guys need some tough love, stat!
August 13th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
US News is a highly unreliable ranking because a. they change how they calculate “best” every year, which means you can’t make comparisons of schools from year to year (it’s as though the SAT recentered its scores after every testing administration), and b. they use things like alumni donations and acceptance rates to calculate rankings.
Most annoyingly, they discuss not at all a school’s ability to educate its students. Yes kids who graduate from Ivy league school’s often do very well (financially and career wise), but it’s not like the schools are taking kids who can’t read and turning them into nuclear physicists. They’re, for the most part, selecting the best educated (if not necessarily the most intelligent) kids, and conditioning them to play to their strengths and not take risks. Duh.
If there’s one thing those kids have figured out it’s how to learn and work the system. How well that translates to on the job performance or a happy life is something completely different.
Hell, judging by the people I know from a broad spectrum of ivy league schools, if judged by happiness of graduates, the Ivies would be tier 3 schools. Such a miserable pool of gits who are obsessed with image, wealth, and perception.
And yes, I went to an Ivy.
There’s a ton of research that shows that kids who get into top tier schools but choose to go elsewhere (for financial or other reasons) do as well as kids who went to top tier schools.
It’s the students, not the schools. A lot of times I wish I had gone to a “normal” school. I’d be a lot less effed up. But hey, I have it better than my triple (undergrad, grad, law school) co-worker who is battling bulimia on her quest to be “perfect”
August 13th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
US News is a highly unreliable ranking because a. they change how they calculate “best” every year, which means you can’t make comparisons of schools from year to year (it’s as though the SAT recentered its scores after every testing administration), and b. they use things like alumni donations and acceptance rates to calculate rankings.
Most annoyingly, they discuss not at all a school’s ability to educate its students. Yes kids who graduate from Ivy league school’s often do very well (financially and career wise), but it’s not like the schools are taking kids who can’t read and turning them into nuclear physicists. They’re, for the most part, selecting the best educated (if not necessarily the most intelligent) kids, and conditioning them to play to their strengths and not take risks. Duh.
If there’s one thing those kids have figured out it’s how to learn and work the system. How well that translates to on the job performance or a happy life is something completely different.
Hell, judging by the people I know from a broad spectrum of ivy league schools, if judged by happiness of graduates, the Ivies would be tier 3 schools. Such a miserable pool of gits who are obsessed with image, wealth, and perception.
And yes, I went to an Ivy.
There’s a ton of research that shows that kids who get into top tier schools but choose to go elsewhere (for financial or other reasons) do as well as kids who went to top tier schools.
It’s the students, not the schools. A lot of times I wish I had gone to a “normal” school. I’d be a lot less effed up. But hey, I have it better than my triple ivy leagued (undergrad, grad, law school) co-worker who is battling bulimia on her quest to be “perfect”
August 13th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
The ad Google served me has links for “Ivy League”, “Yale Legacy”, “Harvard SAT”, and “Cornell SAT”. Does that mean academics isn’t a facctor in Yale admission? That’s SO un-hot!
August 14th, 2007 at 12:07 am
@ Brown ‘07
3% of New Hampshire is roughly the square footage of Cornell’s Agricultural Quad. Just thought I’d point that out…
August 14th, 2007 at 1:16 am
I may be a little bit off on this, but I think Dartmouth may own around 40,000 acres. Cornell owns maybe 20,000 acres. Of course, a lot of research and outreach done by Cornell is also done within state-owned land (e.g. Adirondack Park, state forests). Most of Cornell’s land is used for research. I’m not certain what Dartmouth does with theirs, other than to encourage students to hike around and enjoy the scenery. Is it just passively managed or are there forestry operations?
August 14th, 2007 at 1:40 am
FWIW, I hear Cornell also drives a Dodge Stratus.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:52 am
@blah -
Enough with the politically correct rhetoric. Students from Ivy League schools are, in general, smarter and more ambitious than their peers at less than Ivy schools. The Ivy League has a reputation for a reason, namely, they attract the best and brightest. There’s a reason why the Ivy League is considered commensurate with pompous assholes. The reason: That arrogance is well deserved (for the most part). Non-Ivy Leaguers are often put off by such elitist behavior because they’re not part of the club.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:13 am
so… yay us! wait: arrogance is bad? or we’ve earned the right to be arrogant? and why are duke kids such mirror kissers?
August 14th, 2007 at 4:03 am
Dartmouth has a big grant in Maine too.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:17 am
let’s not everybody start making fun of brown all at once though
August 14th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
@Lynah
Columbia Engineering Grad clocks in at a sluttish 25?
I think it says 19th here, just after princeton’s 18.
That is well above yale’s slutty 37, and dmouth’s 47….
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/eng/brief/engrank_brief.php
can we all agree that these rankings also bias large state schools with large engineering programs… Columbia’s program is at times 1/4 to 1/2 the size of a larger Engineering dedicated school that does not take Columbia’s rigorous core. Columbia engineering is roughly the size of dmouth’s and comparatively does better in all the rankings that “matter”: net research, student SATs, etc.
Note that Columbia Engineering also has a higher average SAT score than Columbia College, comparable to MIT’s avg. SAT score.
suck on that one, Lynah?
August 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
@Lynah
Columbia Engineering Grad clocks in at a sluttish 25?
I think it says 19th here, just after princeton’s 18.
That is well above yale’s slutty 37, and dmouth’s 47….
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/eng/brief/engrank_brief.php
can we all agree that these rankings also bias large state schools with large engineering programs… Columbia’s program is at times 1/4 to 1/2 the size of a larger Engineering dedicated school that does not take Columbia’s rigorous core. Columbia engineering is roughly the size of dmouth’s and comparatively does better in all the rankings that “matter”: net research, student SATs, etc.
Note that Columbia Engineering also has a higher average SAT score than Columbia College, comparable to MIT’s avg. SAT score.
suck on that one, Lynah?
August 14th, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Sorry to be so tedious, but several posters need to learn what a land grant is. The land grant is not used for facilities. Cornell being the land grant institution means that the federal government gave Cornell land based on New York population to raise funds to support education and research way back in 1862. New York being the largest state received about 1 million acres mostly in Wisconsin. Ezra Cornell speculated with this land and eventually turned it into the largest endowment of any school in the world. However, without a large base of alumni to continually support such an endowment at the time, the size relative to other well funded schools has dwindled.
August 14th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Columbia Engineering is comparable to MIT? What? Wait, did I really just read that?
August 14th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
@Columbia: On the link that columbia2010er posted, Columbia was tied for 25-28. Also, we’re discussing undergrad; the point that Columbia grad is better was expressed earlier.
No, we will not “agree that these rankings also bias large state schools”. You can’t trumpet your rank and then complain about bias. Moreover, a larger program offers more varied courses; that’s a strength no matter how you cut it. Your argument is akin to saying “MIT is only good at engineering because it’s so big and focused on engineering.”
I’m glad that Columbia engineers have higher SATs than CC (overall? math? source please). But stooping to comparing SAT scores is truly sophomoric. Are you a classmate of columbia2010er? Or are you just high? Posting the *grad* rankings link could be construed as lazy. My generalization claims another wayward soul!
August 14th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
I just have to say that this is more fun than it should be. Who would have thought there’d be a deep-seated pocket of self-loathing up in Morningside Heights?
C’mon: You’re engineers; be proud you attend the University Closest to Lenox Ave!
August 14th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
@Sorry: I don’t know whether your comment was directed at me, but I’m well aware of the structure of the Morrill Act and Cornell’s original endowment of Wisconsin land. I was just comparing the actual amount of land owned by Cornell and Dartmouth and engaging in a little bit of Ivy League penis envy.
@Lynah, MITBitch, ColumbiaEng: Enough is enough. Everybody knows that Cornell engineering is better than SAES, most especially at the undergrad level. Better research opportunities. Better upper-level courses. More engaged students. Cornell engineers actually go on to build shit. All Columbia engineers seem to do is to “engineer” illiquid, worthless, ponzi-scheme CDOs. And Cornell most definitely offers a world-class undergraduate education in engineering. But so does Columbia and Princeton. MIT may too, but living here in Cambridge it seems all an MIT education is good for is for flaunting around your god-damned brass rat.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
LOUD NOISES!!!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
@ CU Engineer Alum
You’re glossing over the financial constraints of certain non-ivy leagued people, the high correlation between two-family households (who at Ivy League Schools are overrepresented as a portion of the population), the correlation between high SAT scores and income, the thousands of dollars worth of test prep, and tutors so many of the ivy league endure to get to where they are. Some kids are indeed unusually bright, the majority, however, are just unusually prepped, and no better (intellectually speaking) than their less well-heeled peers. Better educated, perhaps, but not innately smarter or harder working (it’s also possible that they spent their energies in non-academic, but perhaps no less socially important pursuits).
In fact, you’re the kind of douche bag Michael Young warned about who would think that (s)he had earned his high standing in society and thus was worthy of any largess that came his way. Or, to quote a southern friend, you’re the kind of guy who was born on third and thinks he hit a triple.
August 14th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Look, the only point I was trying to make was that Lynah’s comment about Columbia and Princeton having shitty engineering schools was totally unfounded and based on shoddy logic. That’s really it. I’m glad Lynah is having fun arguing on an anonymous Ivy League blog; I really don’t think one is allowed to get off on criticizing other people’s ideas of fun (ie getting high) when one is at that level.
August 14th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
your overreaction to this type of commentary indicates that you’re quite bitter. where do you go to school anyways? and why so intense with the ranking piece… you ACTUALLY PAID to get engineering undergrad rankings from USNEWS? god someone needs a life.
I dont think I would characterize defending one’s own school from valueless prodding and unproductive commentary as being “deep-seated self-loathing.”
class of 2010:
MIT’s 25-75 quartiles: 1430-1570
CU Fu Foundation 25-75 quartile: 1440-1550
check out columbia’s statistic site: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/facts.html
and look for MIT’s stats.
So Cornell engineering might be good. i never said anything to strike that claim down, seeing as that’s the only thing Cornell, land of suicide and hazy winters, has going for them.
In fact, were you accepted to Cornell as a Presidential Research Scholar? I guess not. Were you working on direct drive fusion research as a high school junior? I guess not. Just don’t say we’re ALL LAZY and have SLUTTY admissions stats. I would say that is disrespectful. We all have pride in our own schools, and I proudly stand by mine, thank you.
And have you BEEN to morningside heights? it’s really nice. and i don’t know what you think is wrong with lenox ave–they have a decent area there for shopping for cheap clothes: H&M, old navy, plus smaller boutiques.
when you’re in ithaca waiting to kill yourself in the winter, come visit, Columbia will show you a good time in the best city in the world.
yeah, i guess Columbia engineering is quite insecure about its admissions statistics. after all 18% is not a 9% from the College. the engineers are Columbians nonetheless. I wouldn’t say that CU engineers have any less right to be at Columbia, and in many cases, are more stellar students than those in the College.
I would pick Columbia engineering over Cornell engineering any day. I’d rather go to Cal Tech over MIT.
I’ll leave it at that. Lynah, please don’t respond because honestly, if you do, that means you’ve been trolling this post all day for people you can slap down “for fun.” Oh goody goody! Isn’t being an asshole HILARIOUS? God I can’t wait to pull out more statistics I paid for to make fun of other people’s hard work! GOSH!
August 14th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
@bitter: relax bud. you’re so mad you’re rambling at multiple posters. nobody paid for ranks and ‘taking the piss out of you’ means lynah’s not serious. (at least i don’t think so) take a breath, go hang in a cafe on bway, and be at peace with where you are + where you’re going.
August 14th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
word to the last post. Lynah needs to chill.
Also, I think that Columbia Engineering is just catered to a different breed of engineer, not necessarily more bookish or more engineer-y than other engineers. Look, many people at Columbia Engineering chose Fu Foundation over Cornell even MIT (truth, don’t kid) due to any number of factors including location, experience, chill-ness, ivy-ness, down-to-earthness, even anti-douchebaggery etc.
For me it just came down to my preferences and what I wanted from my school. I could have gone to any number of large engineering schools, including UMichigan’s engineering (which is better than any Ivy engineering schools) or Cornell. But what it came down to was just my choice of the City life, the small friendly atmosphere, the SEAS school spirit, and the people. I would say Columbia Engineers are some of the most chill people I’ve met at Columbia. Not because they were the drug hookups or (if they even did, OMG lolz weed Lynah), but because people at the school really care about what they study, be it in earth and environmental or mechanical or civil or chemical or biomed or whatever. I wouldn’t discount the fact that people brought together under the same roof have a certain amount of synergy that awes and inspires other engineering to find what’s right for them. It’s all about the right place for the right person. Maybe Columbia is just not your thing. Most of Columbia engineering applicants self select their school. This probably contributes to the fact that CU SEAS really like SEAS because they want to be there and chose to be there as their first choice.
Also, I wouldn’t discount Columbia engineering’s ability to produce large-school amounts of research for small-school atmosphere. We hold a great deal of research patents including shares in MPEG-2 technology which give the school an annual royalty income. See wiki for fu foundation. sorry no better sources on abstract facts like that. you might try, of all places, the marketing materials from Columbia’s admissions office.
August 15th, 2007 at 9:20 am
‘Chill’ was telling ‘bitter’ to calm down. ‘Cayuga’ already asked ‘Lynah’ and others to pipe down, so your poking ‘Lynah’ isn’t helping. Can’t wait for classes to get hot and heavy and put an end to all this drama.
August 18th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
You complainers need get a life and stop obsessing over what this article says. It doesnt mean shit, all of these schools are great so quit crying like babies.
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:49 am
please! cornell arts & sciences is the foundation of an ivy league education. every other school at Cornell is a notch below. in fact cornell arts & sciences is among the top 3 in the nation. sorry hotelies…you are number one but out of a weak group…
August 28th, 2007 at 11:02 am
CORNELL SCIENCES > YALE, BROWN, DARTMOUTH, COLUMBIA Sciences
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April 4th, 2008 at 6:50 am
hi
i have been waitlisted at fu school of engineering
can any1 tell me what are my chances of getting in?
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April 21st, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Also, no one realizes that Cornell is the only Ivy to hold all for national grants: Land, Sea, Space, and Sun. The technology, research, and innovation at Cornell is definitely one of the best in the country. None of the other Ivies even come close.