Cornell Blogger: Enough of This Hippity Hop Balderdash

Cornell Blogger: Enough of This Hippity Hop BalderdashAt least one Cornell student has had his share of angry black people and their musics. In response to rapper T.I.’s behavior at the school’s Slope Day ’07, Cornell Daily Sun blogger Jared Kraminitz reasons that an entire genre should be avoided in selecting Slope Day ’08′s performers:

Rap is out, I think, for fairly obvious reasons. For one, the biggest names (Jigga, ‘Ye, Fiddy – can you tell I’m down with the street?) are pricey. Also, much as I love a little Biggie bumpin’ in the car, live concerts aren’t conducive to rap; the music overwhelms the vocals and then there’s the risk you’ll be verbally abused by the artist or be forced to listen to the sounds of fake gunshots for five minutes.

Tell it like it is, Jared! On top of that, who knows which rapper is even performing when all of those people look the same?

Kraminitz suggests Cornell needs “a group that can manage to play loud but still sound good… something that rocks.” Only one band matches his specific criterium, indie rockers the Hold Steady. Kraminitz praises them for their “rough-and-tumble, Bruce Springsteen-on-steroids sound.”

I’ve seen both the Hold Steady and “‘Ye” live and the former was much, much more dangerous. A lot of beer, a lot of white trash. I’d much rather take the Hold Steady “bumpin’ in my car” and the cruel underworld of major corporate CEO “Jigga” in concert. I wouldn’t throw water bottles at either.

–JIM NEWELL

  • Jared Kraminitz

    This is what happens when you blog in relative obscurity, you sometimes write more carelessly than you should.

    It seems like some clarification is needed: First, I love rap. What I was trying to express — however clumsily — was that since my favorite rappers aren’t an option for Slope Day (they’ve either performed at Cornell already or are otherwise occupied) I would prefer to see another of my favorite artists from a different genre perform (which led me to the Hold Steady).

    While I did write that rap doesn’t translate well to live shows it was a stupid, careless generalization to make and one that my own concert-going experience contradicts.

    As for the gunshot line, what I ought to have made clear was that it was not meant as a dismissal of hip-hop as a genre and certainly not aimed at any specific rappers (other than T.I.).

    So let’s run through this, just to be safe: I love rap, I’m not a racist, I do think T.I.’s Slope Day performance was an embarrassment and I’d love to see the Hold Steady for Slope Day. Thanks for playing.

    Also, I don’t think criterium means what you think it does. Just a heads up.

  • Jared Kraminitz

    This is what happens when you blog in relative obscurity, you sometimes write more carelessly than you should.

    It seems like some clarification is needed: First, I love rap. What I was trying to express — however clumsily — was that since my favorite rappers aren’t an option for Slope Day (they’ve either performed at Cornell already or are otherwise occupied) I would prefer to see another of my favorite artists from a different genre perform (which led me to the Hold Steady).

    While I did write that rap doesn’t translate well to live shows it was a stupid, careless generalization to make and one that my own concert-going experience contradicts.

    As for the gunshot line, what I ought to have made clear was that it was not meant as a dismissal of hip-hop as a genre and certainly not aimed at any specific rappers (other than T.I.).

    So let’s run through this, just to be safe: I love rap, I’m not a racist, I do think T.I.’s Slope Day performance was an embarrassment and I’d love to see the Hold Steady for Slope Day. Thanks for playing.

    Also, I don’t think criterium means what you think it does. Just a heads up.

  • Jared Kraminitz

    Actually, there I go again, running off my mouth. It means
    a bicycle race of a specified number of laps on a closed course over public roads closed to normal traffic AND criterion. Boy is my face red.

  • Jared Kraminitz

    Actually, there I go again, running off my mouth. It means
    a bicycle race of a specified number of laps on a closed course over public roads closed to normal traffic AND criterion. Boy is my face red.

  • Lynah Faithful

    Jared and Jim: Shame on you both. The word Jim should have used was ‘criteria’ — because there were multiple restrictions on who should be performing at Slope Day. The Ivy League needs to resurrect the Latin and Greek prerequisite for applying.

  • Lynah Faithful

    Jared and Jim: Shame on you both. The word Jim should have used was ‘criteria’ — because there were multiple restrictions on who should be performing at Slope Day. The Ivy League needs to resurrect the Latin and Greek prerequisite for applying.

  • jim newell

    Jared: you seem nice. everyone read jared’s blog! he’s nice. i think “criterium” is one of those words people so often misuse that it becomes a synonym for “criterion.”

    Lynah: yeah, i thought about that, but decided it was one big criter(ium)(ion) rather than several small similar ones.

    grammar rules

  • jim newell

    Jared: you seem nice. everyone read jared’s blog! he’s nice. i think “criterium” is one of those words people so often misuse that it becomes a synonym for “criterion.”

    Lynah: yeah, i thought about that, but decided it was one big criter(ium)(ion) rather than several small similar ones.

    grammar rules

  • CrunkAtCornell

    T.I is the shit, dude!

  • CrunkAtCornell

    T.I is the shit, dude!

  • adcornell

    leave it to people from Cornell to like rap music anyways… no wonder we’re the shittiest ivy.

  • adcornell

    leave it to people from Cornell to like rap music anyways… no wonder we’re the shittiest ivy.

  • CrunkAtCornell

    Penn is the shittiest!

  • CrunkAtCornell

    Penn is the shittiest!

  • Nick

    A bit ridiculous, but I will say Hold Steady was great live at Columbia last fall.

  • Nick

    A bit ridiculous, but I will say Hold Steady was great live at Columbia last fall.

  • blah

    “had his share” or “had his fill”?

  • blah

    “had his share” or “had his fill”?

  • Lynah Faithful

    @blah: Good call. It seems our guest editors are not yet ready to graduate; they need a little more education.

    @CrunkAtCornell: If both TI and Penn are shit, what’s the difference? One of them made it out of the ‘hood!

  • Lynah Faithful

    @blah: Good call. It seems our guest editors are not yet ready to graduate; they need a little more education.

    @CrunkAtCornell: If both TI and Penn are shit, what’s the difference? One of them made it out of the ‘hood!

  • derp

    @Lynah: rinse sand out of vagina, post haste.

  • derp

    @Lynah: rinse sand out of vagina, post haste.

  • CrunkAtCornell

    TI sux but TIP is the man!

  • CrunkAtCornell

    TI sux but TIP is the man!

  • qb

    Journey for Slope Day!!

  • qb

    Journey for Slope Day!!

  • big rad

    i second journey for slope day!
    i think there have been rappers 3 years running, not really fair
    when was the last time we had a country singer come to play?
    i thought college was about diversity

  • big rad

    i second journey for slope day!
    i think there have been rappers 3 years running, not really fair
    when was the last time we had a country singer come to play?
    i thought college was about diversity

  • CU’07

    1) There have not been rappers 3 years running — two years ago, the performer was Ben Folds.
    2) TI went off for five minutes at a time with a barrage of gunshot sound effects. It was a truly awful performance. I may not be a fan of rap, but I still know a hack performer from working for years on the Concert Commission. Musicians should play music, not waste our time with repetitive sound effects. Leave that to techno people.

    Kanye West was probably the least professional rapper I’ve ever seen. At Slope Day ’04 when he showed up an hour late for his set little dazed and claiming that he could not find Slope Day. Right.

  • CU’07

    1) There have not been rappers 3 years running — two years ago, the performer was Ben Folds.
    2) TI went off for five minutes at a time with a barrage of gunshot sound effects. It was a truly awful performance. I may not be a fan of rap, but I still know a hack performer from working for years on the Concert Commission. Musicians should play music, not waste our time with repetitive sound effects. Leave that to techno people.

    Kanye West was probably the least professional rapper I’ve ever seen. At Slope Day ’04 when he showed up an hour late for his set little dazed and claiming that he could not find Slope Day. Right.

  • H ’07

    If Cornell is not the shittiest Ivy, then why does it have the highest student suicide rate in the league?

    • Dutors

      best engineering in the ivies

      second best Goldman Sachs placementoops….

  • H ’07

    If Cornell is not the shittiest Ivy, then why does it have the highest student suicide rate in the league?

  • @H’07

    A number of sources (including a 2001 article in the Boston Globe) indicate that Harvard has the highest suicide rate in the Ivy League. I guess the reality of Cambridge Community College is a downer.

  • @H’07

    A number of sources (including a 2001 article in the Boston Globe) indicate that Harvard has the highest suicide rate in the Ivy League. I guess the reality of Cambridge Community College is a downer.

  • @h’07

    The gorges make stuff dramatic, man. Everyone has to know by now that the Cornell suicide rate thing isn’t actually true — I think CU’s rate is actually below average, and Harvard/MIT are the highest — so my theory is that the gorges just add lore. The thing is that if people do die, the gorges are a dramatic way of doing it, often leading to weeks of prolonged searching for a missing student before the tragic find floating somewhere upstream. At NYU or Chicago they just jump off a building. There’s a lot less… I dunno, buildup? suspense? That’s just my theory.

  • @h’07

    The gorges make stuff dramatic, man. Everyone has to know by now that the Cornell suicide rate thing isn’t actually true — I think CU’s rate is actually below average, and Harvard/MIT are the highest — so my theory is that the gorges just add lore. The thing is that if people do die, the gorges are a dramatic way of doing it, often leading to weeks of prolonged searching for a missing student before the tragic find floating somewhere upstream. At NYU or Chicago they just jump off a building. There’s a lot less… I dunno, buildup? suspense? That’s just my theory.

  • ugh

    someone has to print a news story on suicide so that people get it right and the cornell myths stop… it’s just wrong stats, and the fact that even ivy leaguers think it’s true make me wonder if this is what the world thinks.. i hope someone does a real survey and put it on the front page of the nytimes or something so that we can rest in peace.

    Oh dear, poor choice of words… so that we can move on.

    Hmm, still hints at some kind of lame pun.

    Anyway, you get what I mean.

  • ugh

    someone has to print a news story on suicide so that people get it right and the cornell myths stop… it’s just wrong stats, and the fact that even ivy leaguers think it’s true make me wonder if this is what the world thinks.. i hope someone does a real survey and put it on the front page of the nytimes or something so that we can rest in peace.

    Oh dear, poor choice of words… so that we can move on.

    Hmm, still hints at some kind of lame pun.

    Anyway, you get what I mean.

  • CU’07

    I think Cornell’s suicide rate is the highest because of all the Asians… they’re somewhat testy.

  • CU’07

    I think Cornell’s suicide rate is the highest because of all the Asians… they’re somewhat testy.

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