Cat-loving Wikipedia Admins Kill IvyGate, Dog-loving IvyGate Resents This (UPDATE)
A search for IvyGate's sleek Wikipedia page now yields nothing. The page underwent a deletion review and was ruled undeserving of Wikipedia's (apparently limited) real estate, for lack of notability. (To see the full details, click the image.)
The initial hater was Wikipedian "Biggspowd," who argued on August 20 that "The references listed just mention the blog in passing, not on it's own merit." Two words, Biggspowd: New Yorker. That is a magazine of repute. You are not.
A talk ensued with Biggspowd's Crabbe-and-Goyles "Corpx" and "Aarktica" questioning IG's "long term historic notability." I had been on Wikipedia when I first read this. At the time I was browsing through some of Jeopardy's 5-day champions from the early '90s, many of whom have their own pages. So. This. "Long term historic notability." You decide.
The Pontius Pilate figure was admin CitiCat, who deleted the IvyGate page on August 27, the same day that "Image:Cher_in_hell_on_wheels.jpg" and "Tourettes Guy" underwent review and a day before "Rank insignia of the Galactic Empire" and "Croatophobia" sat in cyberrelevancy court.
Back to CitiCat, who sentenced our personal Jesus to death. The CitiCat admin page reveals the provincial governor's felis sylvestris namesakes:
CitiCat calls these "two of the various fuzzy occupants at my home." CitiCat has "been using the internet pretty much continuously since 1987." CitiCat is a 38-year-old man. CitiCat kills dreams.
We want to know everyone's opinions. Is IvyGate worthy of a Wikipedia page? Do our recent highlights--the L.A. mayor's son's confessing crimes, the early leak of the USN&WR rankings--make us as historically notable as Jerome Vered, who won a week's worth of Jeopardy! in 1992? Why would the admins ever consider deleting Galactic Empire rank insignia? To whom would the Storm Troopers answer?!
Or is this some relic of the Jim Cro-atophobe Laws? Because we will play the Croatophobe card, you catfucking Cro-Magnon.
--JIM NEWELL (Remember me?)
P.S.: Someone make the new IvyGate Wikipedia page and fight out the historic notability there.
UPDATE 2:40 p.m. Thursday: The rumors on the comment boards are true. IvyGate's Wikipedia page v1.2 returned in the wee hours of August 30. The hero was Wikipedia admin Wikidemo, famous for creating the Francis Ford Coppola, Redheaded Slut and--yes--"Impossible is Nothing" pages. Wikidemo, according to the IvyGate article's history, restored and updated it to "overcome any 'single news event' concerns." It is much more thorough than the old article, devoting a long paragraph to Chris Beam's dad.
CitiCat, meanwhile, has suffered his greatest defeat in 20 years of Internetting.
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August 28th, 2007 at 8:07 pm
here’s the problem with wikipedia. it used to be styled as a collection of all knowledge. that’s great. now we judge whether things are notable enough. fuck that. if i wanted an encyclopedia with just notable things i’d be happy with my 1980 edition of world book.
August 28th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
the rules around deletion are incredibly ambiguous… for everything that’s ever been deleted there are 10 worthless articles that aren’t. Obscure characters from obscure books have pages.
Fame equaling that of “The New Yorker” is hardly the bar for wiki repute. Sounds like someone with either a grudge or a complete lack of sense.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
I frequently want to shoot idiots like this on Wikipedia.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
jim ROCKS!
August 28th, 2007 at 11:45 pm
I don’t know if IvyGate deserves a Wikipedia page on its own merits, but any publication associated with Jim Newell most certainly does!
August 28th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
i thought there were supposed to be new editors or something. jim, why are you still here?
August 29th, 2007 at 12:33 am
jim is still in desperate need of a job and mistakenly mistook blogging as the solution to that problem, so we can’t help but excuse his clingyness.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:12 am
for a good article exploring wikipedia’s notability standard, check this out:
http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/53200/
August 29th, 2007 at 7:49 am
It’s sad that Aleksey is found more notable than Ivygate. He’s got his own page with a sick action shot of his sweet dance moves. The funny thing is, if you search “Ivygate” on wikipedia, this is the first match found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=ivygate&go=Go
August 29th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Sounds like the Wikipedios are butthurt.
Go start http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Ivy_Gate
August 29th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
well, now i’m well-versed in jeapordy history…
and yet sadly lacking in ivygate trivia.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
“i have been using the internet pretty much continuously since 1987″ . . . seriously??? that’s so depressing. and then he goes on to list every state he’s ever been to in his profile . . . as if anyone gives a shit. his whole profile makes me happy i am anyone but him. or his wife. or kids.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Jim Newell, are you reading these comments?? dinyourmouth has the answer to the historical notability issue with his simple search. ivygate, tied to Alexsky, who apparently is notable enough for inclusion. It was ivygate who “discovered” alexsky after all, and if wikipedia needs evidence of that, they should just search their own site. Guilty by association; include ig.
By the way, we are waaaaay overdue for an update on AV. Come on, people!!
August 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Wikipedia’s primary rule for whether a topic is significant enough to merit is called colloquially the pokemon rule. It states that, since there are articles on every pokemon (from the TV cartoon or possibly the card game) that anything which is as significant as a pokemon is worthy of inclusion in the hallowed ranks of wikipedia,
Sadly I’m not making this up.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
It’s back, thanks to some user named ” Wikidemo”. Thanks for calming my urge to shoot the idiot that deleted IvyGate!
August 30th, 2007 at 2:31 am
i still don’t see it. this is ridiculous. can some ivy-loving wikipedia-nut fight these people and get a page back up?
August 30th, 2007 at 7:10 am
chill, ’tis indeed back
August 30th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Seriously though, we do need an update on Alexey, like NOW-ish. Where is he living? Where is he working? And most importantly, where is he fighting underground these days?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
IvyGate was founded in 2006 by then Columbia University alumni Chris Beam and Nick Summers
“then alumni”? didn’t know you could stop.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
did ivygate cover the thing about the boston globe ? poking fun at your own dad is what this blog’s about.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
this is all i want to point out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsaber_combat
August 30th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
the deletion review files–what a goldmine. they’re looking at “shemale” now:
“I don’t claim to be an expert on this topic, but my understanding is that “shemale” (usually “she-male” in porn, but contracted to “shemale” as a gloss on “female”) primarily differs from “transwoman” by being considered derogatory. Its omission from the latter article means its near-complete omission from this entire encyclopedia, which seems incorrect. If it is to be merged the information should be there; if it is not merged it should be properly distinguished (rather than just defined, as the definition will be confusingly close to transwoman for most people). –Dhartung | Talk 20:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)”
these admins render fiction writing useless. “usually ’she-male’ in porn”… i’ve got to remember that one.
August 31st, 2007 at 12:24 am
GLORIOUS save!! “CitiCat, meanwhile, has suffered his greatest defeat in 20 years of Internetting”….. you totally owned him/her/it.
August 31st, 2007 at 11:56 am
I believe the correct phraseology would be that CitiCat got pwned, if we are keeping with the internet savvy here. Also, “internetting” as a verb is fucking hilarious, i love it. You find out all kinds of cool shiznit when you surf the wide wide world of web aka floating in cyberspace aka pulling a Lohan on the information superhighway.
August 31st, 2007 at 4:12 pm
You guys need to update; it’s been 3 days since this post.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:14 am
First of all, “i make coitus” should go die if (s)he, or anyone else for that matter, feels it’s OK to still use the gay-ass construction “pwned”. Secondly, did the editors die?!
September 1st, 2007 at 10:54 am
“gay-ass construction”? Look who’s using dated jargon now.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:27 pm
pwned
September 1st, 2007 at 6:58 pm
you need to post a new update
September 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pm
you need to post something new. it’s been 4 days since this post.
September 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pm
UPDATE, PLEASE.
September 1st, 2007 at 9:59 pm
NEW POST, PLEASE. this one is so boring already.
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 am
Little boys who use “pwned” are fags who jerk to Star Wars. IvyGate, there’s a rotating ad banner at the top of the page that reads, “Big Ten Network”, then proceeds to display the seals of tons of state schools. I expect it to be removed immediately.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 pm
IvyGate is officially—over.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Ok, ok, just to make this interesting, until a new article is up, I propose: FLAME WAR.
Here, let me start; Sasha = FAG who should go and fucking die already, because he has no friends etc.
BTW, what on earth is wrong with state schools?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:43 pm
I said we were dark. This post was an emergency interruption.
Announcement on Tuesday, or so.
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:28 pm
If the announcement isn’t that Newell is a new permanent editor, I’m outta here.
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:22 am
@dpostm: i’m surprised i’m getting all this support after street/news beat sports in kamen cup ‘06. i mean… thanks.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:27 am
Adolfe, in case you haven’t heard, “Sasha” is a GIRL’S name, idiot.
October 13th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
STOP KILLING ANIMALS
and if you have an animal put it on the new paper or the
web. so other people could buy them. so you don’t kill them. they have feelings.please we are 2nd grade. and we eat meat but if you stop killing animals we won’t. so please please STOP KILLING ANIMALS.we feel bad for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1