Princetonian ‘Joke’ Issue Shows Knack for Subtle Social Commentary

<em>Princetonian</em> 'Joke' Issue Shows Knack for Subtle Social CommentaryWe knew there was a reason we hadn’t yet written about Jian Li, the high school senior who sued filed a civil rights complaint against Princeton for discrimination after they rejected his early application. (He claims they held his Asian ethnicity against him.) And boy are we glad we waited, since now he can probably add the Daily Princetonian as a defendant.

In yesterday’s annual “joke” issue, the Prince ran, among other laugh-laugh-sigh satires, an op-ed by one “Lian Ji” titled, “Princeton University is racist against me, I mean, non-whites.” “Hi Princeton! Remember me?” it starts off. “I so good at math and science. Perfect 2400 SAT score. Ring bell?” Having upturned that modest divet, they keep digging for another 550 or so words:

“What is wrong with you no color people? Yellow people make the world go round. We cook greasy food, wash your clothes and let you copy our homework. Brown people are catching up, too but not before the 2008 Beijing Olympics.”

WOW. I mean, wow. After the year that brought us the Dartmouth Review Native American flap and Yale Rumpus’ “Me Love You Long Time” ado, it’s as if someone just pushed reset. Let’s see that again! There should really be an award for the student(s) who, every year, think they will be the ones to transcend racism by displaying it in its crudest form. And who, every year, make utter fools of themselves (and learn that irony isn’t a defense). So kind of them not to spell it “Orympics.”

If this doesn’t blow up in their faces, it’s by the grace of God. Princetonian Editor-in-Chief Chanakya Sethi ’07 told us he was “aware there were concerns” about the piece, but hasn’t heard any direct complaints yet. Then again, students are in reading week. “If there are people who are concerned, I’m concerned,” he said.

The best part is, the people responsible for running it — the outgoing board, Sethi included — won’t even have to deal with the (still hypothetical) fallout. The hate mail, the meetings with deans, the sensitivity training seminars — all will fall squarely on the shoulders of their successors. Thanks, fellas. It’s been fun. Don’t let the picketers hit you in the ass on the way out.

P.S. — The Globe‘s must-read Brainiac had this first.

  • Bucky

    Satire is not an excuse for racist drivel. If it were, then we should be awarding Michael Richards a congressional medal for his genius satire that sparked dialog about racial reconciliation.

  • Bucky

    Satire is not an excuse for racist drivel. If it were, then we should be awarding Michael Richards a congressional medal for his genius satire that sparked dialog about racial reconciliation.

  • just some dude

    Princeton itself aint so bad, really. You have to understand just how terrible the Daily Princetonian really is — utterly, consistently, phenomenally, legendarily terrible. I don’t know what students at the other Ivies think of their daily newspapers, but trust me, no matter how lackluster they may be, the Prince makes them look like the fucking NYRB. Every article is a superficial gloss that inevitably gets the story wrong — if there’s even a “story” there in the first place. There’s usually not.

    However, Rita, those stereotypes you’re flinging at Princeton — they have nothing to do with the staff of the Daily Princetonian. They’re not racist, they just suck at life.

  • just some dude

    Princeton itself aint so bad, really. You have to understand just how terrible the Daily Princetonian really is — utterly, consistently, phenomenally, legendarily terrible. I don’t know what students at the other Ivies think of their daily newspapers, but trust me, no matter how lackluster they may be, the Prince makes them look like the fucking NYRB. Every article is a superficial gloss that inevitably gets the story wrong — if there’s even a “story” there in the first place. There’s usually not.

    However, Rita, those stereotypes you’re flinging at Princeton — they have nothing to do with the staff of the Daily Princetonian. They’re not racist, they just suck at life.

  • Dartmouth Indian

    Asians are the new Indians.

  • Dartmouth Indian

    Asians are the new Indians.

  • Beth G., Columbia Alumna

    “So I see you guys at IvyGate have nothing better to do than to run around crying racist every time you see a piece of satire. Irony is absolutely a defense.”

    Printing an article full of stupid stereotypes about Asians is not satire. Making fun of the PERSON who’s suing Princeton could pass for satire (although it would still be a mean-spirited thing to do, so I don’t want to sound as if I’m 100% condoning that either). Making fun of the idea that Asians are discriminated against and/or the idea that this person apparently concluded he was being discriminated against on race without knowing the real reason he was rejected – that could possibly be satire. However, making fun of the person’s entire RACE is not in any way a satire or an attempt to inspire serious debate about the case, as the Daily Prince is now claiming it should. There’s an important distinction there.

  • Beth G., Columbia Alumna

    “So I see you guys at IvyGate have nothing better to do than to run around crying racist every time you see a piece of satire. Irony is absolutely a defense.”

    Printing an article full of stupid stereotypes about Asians is not satire. Making fun of the PERSON who’s suing Princeton could pass for satire (although it would still be a mean-spirited thing to do, so I don’t want to sound as if I’m 100% condoning that either). Making fun of the idea that Asians are discriminated against and/or the idea that this person apparently concluded he was being discriminated against on race without knowing the real reason he was rejected – that could possibly be satire. However, making fun of the person’s entire RACE is not in any way a satire or an attempt to inspire serious debate about the case, as the Daily Prince is now claiming it should. There’s an important distinction there.

  • offended?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4mgcIZlEO8

    chappelle’s show: absurdly exaggerated black stereotypes, by a black person

    prince column: absurdly exaggerated asian stereotypes, by an asian person (not south asian; it WAS written by a chinese-american, as is slowly becoming known on the p-ton campus)

    so does this make chappelle (and margaret cho and every other comedian) racist? should they all apologize to anyone who happens to read/hear them? is this whole uproar just a consequence of the initial anonymity of the author, and if so, what does that tell us?

  • offended?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4mgcIZlEO8

    chappelle’s show: absurdly exaggerated black stereotypes, by a black person

    prince column: absurdly exaggerated asian stereotypes, by an asian person (not south asian; it WAS written by a chinese-american, as is slowly becoming known on the p-ton campus)

    so does this make chappelle (and margaret cho and every other comedian) racist? should they all apologize to anyone who happens to read/hear them? is this whole uproar just a consequence of the initial anonymity of the author, and if so, what does that tell us?

  • 05er

    Absolutely hysterical article. Couldn’t have been funnier or had a better point. Thank goodness it was written.

  • 05er

    Absolutely hysterical article. Couldn’t have been funnier or had a better point. Thank goodness it was written.

  • re: offended?

    who wrote it? if it’s going to come out anyway, someone might as well tell us. this is an anonymous website, remember

  • re: offended?

    who wrote it? if it’s going to come out anyway, someone might as well tell us. this is an anonymous website, remember

  • knickerbocker

    The funny part was calling the author “Lian Ji” instead of “Jian Li.” Other than that, it qualified as “journalistic malpractice.”

  • knickerbocker

    The funny part was calling the author “Lian Ji” instead of “Jian Li.” Other than that, it qualified as “journalistic malpractice.”

  • offended??

    “so does this make chappelle (and margaret cho and every other comedian) racist?”
    Sure chappelle’s show is extreme exaggeration, but they’re certainly not helping the cause against racism. You have black youth still calling each other niggers and acting with gang mentality b/c they emulate these role models. Maybe Asians hold themselves to a higher standards in society.

  • offended??

    “so does this make chappelle (and margaret cho and every other comedian) racist?”
    Sure chappelle’s show is extreme exaggeration, but they’re certainly not helping the cause against racism. You have black youth still calling each other niggers and acting with gang mentality b/c they emulate these role models. Maybe Asians hold themselves to a higher standards in society.

  • tiger06

    actually, what sarah silverman said was “i love chinks”

  • tiger06

    actually, what sarah silverman said was “i love chinks”

  • D07

    Remember that one of the reasons Chappelle stopped doing his show was because he believed it was no longer socially responsible to portray those stereotypes in the first place. To do so, he felt, was to perpetuate and reinforce them.

  • D07

    Remember that one of the reasons Chappelle stopped doing his show was because he believed it was no longer socially responsible to portray those stereotypes in the first place. To do so, he felt, was to perpetuate and reinforce them.

  • Princeton 06

    The Prince never gets to the bottom of a story – ever. It’s illiterate drivel. I’d like to put the Prince’s terribleness into historical context.
    Take this recent lede, for example: “If this weekend’s games had been one giant exam, the men’s basketball team (9-6 overall, 0-2 Ivy League) would be in some pretty hot water with its parents.” What does that mean?
    Or from last year: “the last time the Princeton women’s swimming and diving team lost in Ivy League dual-meet competition, Bill Clinton was President, current senior captain was a freshman in high school, and college students managed to procrastinate without thefacebook.com.” These really are the Prince’s traditional hallmarks of the passage of time: who was President? How old was Stephanie Hsiao? And most importantly, did thefacebook.com exist?
    When other publications on campus offend groups of students, the Prince almost always takes a sanctimonious holier-than-thou approach, even as it misreports the facts. Good to see them get their just desserts.

  • Princeton 06

    The Prince never gets to the bottom of a story – ever. It’s illiterate drivel. I’d like to put the Prince’s terribleness into historical context.
    Take this recent lede, for example: “If this weekend’s games had been one giant exam, the men’s basketball team (9-6 overall, 0-2 Ivy League) would be in some pretty hot water with its parents.” What does that mean?
    Or from last year: “the last time the Princeton women’s swimming and diving team lost in Ivy League dual-meet competition, Bill Clinton was President, current senior captain was a freshman in high school, and college students managed to procrastinate without thefacebook.com.” These really are the Prince’s traditional hallmarks of the passage of time: who was President? How old was Stephanie Hsiao? And most importantly, did thefacebook.com exist?
    When other publications on campus offend groups of students, the Prince almost always takes a sanctimonious holier-than-thou approach, even as it misreports the facts. Good to see them get their just desserts.

  • Ivy League ’96

    How the hell is this crap satire or irony?? Why would you satire a Yale man with perfect SAT verbal scores with broken English?? How is that satire? The only way you can attribute broken english to Li is by his race/ethnicity and that’s the definition of racism. Also, a South Asian (Chanakya Sethi) doesn’t get a free pass to make racist comments against East Asians just because they are both Asians. Asia is a big place. I’m East Asian and if I were to greet my Indian co-workers with South Asian stereotypes, I would surely be fired. Why should Chanakya be allowed to hide his racism behind being a fellow Asian when he’s attacking another race entirely.

  • Ivy League ’96

    How the hell is this crap satire or irony?? Why would you satire a Yale man with perfect SAT verbal scores with broken English?? How is that satire? The only way you can attribute broken english to Li is by his race/ethnicity and that’s the definition of racism. Also, a South Asian (Chanakya Sethi) doesn’t get a free pass to make racist comments against East Asians just because they are both Asians. Asia is a big place. I’m East Asian and if I were to greet my Indian co-workers with South Asian stereotypes, I would surely be fired. Why should Chanakya be allowed to hide his racism behind being a fellow Asian when he’s attacking another race entirely.

  • The Globalized World

    Stinky news spreads fast. Like the controversy surrounding that British show (Big Brother), this story is making its way around the globe as well. Click on the link here http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=wWE&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1112786108

    or click on Google News, and type ‘princeton newspaper controversy’

  • The Globalized World

    Stinky news spreads fast. Like the controversy surrounding that British show (Big Brother), this story is making its way around the globe as well. Click on the link here http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=wWE&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1112786108

    or click on Google News, and type ‘princeton newspaper controversy’

  • Columbia 08

    I have no problem with this.

  • Columbia 08

    I have no problem with this.

  • h06

    The thing is, if you’re going to joke about race, gender, religion, or any other type of sensitive issue, it HAS to be really, and nearly unimpeachably, funny. Failed satire will end up sounding just like its intended targets, so there is very little room for error. Personally, I found the part about the overachiever stereotypes funny, because obviously the dude is being a total tool, and perpetuating these stereotypes. What bothered me was the broken language used in the article. It simply was not necessary in any way, and overstepped the line between making fun of this Jian Li toolbox, and making fun of Asians in general. Unlike the other stereotypes in the piece it was one which clearly did not have any relation to Jian Li, so there was really no justification for it, especially since it is a stereotype that is more “applicable” to Asians than to Asian-Americans. It may have been appropriate if the Prince had been satirizing Kim Jong-Il (a la Team America; so ronery…) but it had no place in this piece.

  • h06

    The thing is, if you’re going to joke about race, gender, religion, or any other type of sensitive issue, it HAS to be really, and nearly unimpeachably, funny. Failed satire will end up sounding just like its intended targets, so there is very little room for error. Personally, I found the part about the overachiever stereotypes funny, because obviously the dude is being a total tool, and perpetuating these stereotypes. What bothered me was the broken language used in the article. It simply was not necessary in any way, and overstepped the line between making fun of this Jian Li toolbox, and making fun of Asians in general. Unlike the other stereotypes in the piece it was one which clearly did not have any relation to Jian Li, so there was really no justification for it, especially since it is a stereotype that is more “applicable” to Asians than to Asian-Americans. It may have been appropriate if the Prince had been satirizing Kim Jong-Il (a la Team America; so ronery…) but it had no place in this piece.

  • LinkMan

    The Princeton Tiger (campus humor magazine) has a response in its latest issue (see p.6):

    http://tigermag.princeton.edu/issues/feb07/issue125-1.pdf

    It’s not very funny until the end, at which point it becomes extremely funny. Unless you go to Penn.

  • LinkMan

    The Princeton Tiger (campus humor magazine) has a response in its latest issue (see p.6):

    http://tigermag.princeton.edu/issues/feb07/issue125-1.pdf

    It’s not very funny until the end, at which point it becomes extremely funny. Unless you go to Penn.

  • p08

    the princeton tiger is legitimately awful — it is probably the single unfunniest “humor” magazine in existence. retarded middle-schoolers could put out something better.

  • p08

    the princeton tiger is legitimately awful — it is probably the single unfunniest “humor” magazine in existence. retarded middle-schoolers could put out something better.

  • spadeaspade

    i guess if there’s any irony there, it can be found
    in the fact that an asian would be complaining about
    racism. asians are the most racist group of people
    in the world. when asians stop thinking they are
    superior to all other races, call me. otherwise,
    the next time i hear the phrase ‘asians are going to
    rule’ (should happen any minute now, somewhere in
    america), i’ll remember to not feel bad about anything
    the princetonian writes about asians.

  • spadeaspade

    i guess if there’s any irony there, it can be found
    in the fact that an asian would be complaining about
    racism. asians are the most racist group of people
    in the world. when asians stop thinking they are
    superior to all other races, call me. otherwise,
    the next time i hear the phrase ‘asians are going to
    rule’ (should happen any minute now, somewhere in
    america), i’ll remember to not feel bad about anything
    the princetonian writes about asians.