Cornell So Proud Of Itself For This
Yes, Cornell, we know you guys romp down Fifth Avenue every year after facing Columbia at Baker Field. We're happy for you. But c'mon, why'd you have to go and carry a dumb banner? The counter-evidence ...
That's Harvard's annual Hasty Pudding parade. Also, Yale employees had their own sort of parade a few years back (we hear it was slightly less festive):
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November 17th, 2006 at 10:22 am
Not to mention the annual P-Rade at Princeton Reunions.
November 17th, 2006 at 12:04 pm
Yeah, but Fifth Avenue parades are *really* hard to get. All kinds of groups want them, since it’s the best parade route in the city, but the city isn’t allowing any new ones.
November 17th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
Perhaps the more pertinent question is whether anyone besides those walking home would want to watch a shitty Cornell parade. Just sounds like a nuisance to those of us who don’t give a fuck.
November 17th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Dmouth, what parade CAN’T be described as “a nuisance to those of us who don’t give a fuck”?
November 17th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
It’s okay, they get pretty lonely and depressed up on that hill in Ithaca. Let them block traffic for a while. It probably saved Cornell a pretty penny on student mental health services.
November 17th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
Cornell sucks, I say we purge them from the ivy league
November 17th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
We have enough rallies and protests (against police brutality, pro workers’ rights, against.. human rights abuses, I don’t even know) to make up for it.
November 17th, 2006 at 9:50 pm
brown is the lowest ranked ivy – and everybody knows that!!!
what’s the color of shit?
November 18th, 2006 at 12:30 am
(But still not a state school.)
November 18th, 2006 at 10:51 am
and Cornell is? Find me proof of this, I have proof that it isn’t, but i’d love to see otherwise. Perhaps show me you’re not as ignorant as you appear to be…
November 18th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Um moron, Cornell is a STATE FUNDED school (you receive partial funding from NY state). None of the other ivies receive any state funding.
Plus, you guys accept everybody, have a hotel school (HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHHA), and are generally all rejected from other (finer) schools before actually matriculating into Cornell.
November 18th, 2006 at 8:00 pm
All schools receive funding from public sources (Fed govt, defense agencies, state funding), inculding all the private Ivies. In fact, none of the private schools (except possibly Harvard) could survive without public research funding.
November 18th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Way to strut the stuff you learned at Brown. Cornell is no different from any other private school with the funding it receives. Actually, I’ll correct myself – they are a bit different as they receive way more than any other private school in the US.
Think of it as free money for Cornell – why wouldn’t they?! If the State ran the univeresity, then they’d be a state school, obviously, but this is far from the case. In fact, the only connection is monetary. At least you sort of got it right with the ‘partial funding’ statement. Too bad you couldn’t put two and two simple concepts together to get the right idea.
Please do some research before making posts like that. You’re really embarrasing both yourself and your school. Are all Brown students this embarrased about their position in the rankings?
November 18th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
cornell does not just recieve grants from the federal governments like other private universities. half of the colleges at cornell are publically funded by the state of new york. so state school most correctly applies to cornell.
November 18th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
not quite. They do receive some sort of funding, though the majority of it is used to build or upgrade new buildings and cut tuition a little for some students. In fact, the majority of funding is provided by Cornell itself.
You clearly are also among the uneducated who roam the ivy news blogs. Either that or your can’t get enough of yourself.
First, get to know what a state school is. A school that gets funding from the state does not consititute a state school. Otherwise, every school in the country would be a state school. The difference does not lie in the funding but rather with who runs it. All of Cornell is run by Cornell. This is part of what makes it private. SUNY, the state part of NY, runs all of its other schools. They select the teachers, dictate the funding, and supervise every decision made at their universities. The only thing they get to do for Cornell is give it money. It’s a pretty easy concept.
Face it, either get informed, or get over your ego. All of Cornell is private, and this has been repeatedly confirmed by the courts. Look up some of the applicable law cases, get informed. Get a clue!
November 19th, 2006 at 12:43 am
each of the other Ivies applied for the land grant status that provides Cornell state funds. Each in turn was eventually rejected by their respective states because they either did not trust or eventually lost confidence in the institutions ability to provide an education with any practical value.
November 19th, 2006 at 1:03 am
Harvard lost their bid to them state schoolers at MIT
November 19th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
Cornell has several contract schools that are funded largely by the state of New York. These schools are part of the SUNY system ( http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_complete_list.cfm ) and students enrolled in them pay reduced SUNY tuition. In addition, the standing governor of New York gets a position on Cornell’s board of trustees. So yes, Cornell, you are (at least partly) a state school. Apparently, you’re also humorless and ignorant as to the workings of your own university. Stay confident.
November 19th, 2006 at 5:58 pm
Cornell has several contract schools that are funded largely by the state of New York. These schools are part of the SUNY system ( http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_complete_list.cfm ) and students enrolled in them pay reduced SUNY tuition. In addition, the standing governor of New York gets a position on Cornell’s board of trustees. So yes, Cornell, you are (at least partly) a state school. Apparently, you’re also humorless and ignorant as to the workings of your own university. Stay confident.
November 19th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
yeah, we get a ’shout out’ on the SUNY website – if you gave hundreds of millions of dollars to a school, wouldn’t you? It’s ok, it’s pretty clear the differences between a SUNY school and a private school.
To be exact, the state funds about $12-14,000 of the estimated $50-60,000 a year it costs per student to attend Cornell. the rest of the cost is absorbed by the university. Also, the students don’t pay SUNY tuition. SUNY tuition is about $5,000 a year, cornell for in-state students is 5 times that. For out of state, the difference is a solid $900 from the endowed colleges.
Note how the governor gets a spot on the trustees – NOT the dirrector of SUNY. Big difference there. It’s the governor who just gave Cornell $70,000,000 for various buildings on campus – SUNY is too broke for that.
to say cornell is ‘partially’ a state school is leaving out some very important facts, though. I wonder if it’s just because people like yourself have large ego issues and refuse to come to truth with the facts.
November 19th, 2006 at 6:59 pm
No, but seriously, Cornell is still partly in the SUNY system. But anyway, when you make me explain a joke like this, you make it unfunny. Perhaps if you guys had the capacity for self-deprecation and humor you wouldn’t throw yourselves into the gorge in record numbers. Just a thought.
November 19th, 2006 at 7:11 pm
Yeah yeah, we take SUNY’s money. They can’t do jack in regulating any part of the school, but I guess this goes over your head. Ivy league my ass Philthy.
Also, you are such a winner for bringing up more false data. I thought it couldn’t get any worse!
Average suicide rate at all US colleges 5:100,000 students
MIT’s suicide rate: 20:100,000 students
Cornell’s: 4.8:100,000 students.
Are you familiar with numbers? Just ask somebody nearby if you are having a bit of trouble with them, some of them are very long. By the way, those numbers were released last year by the university.
Again, you show the thought process that any Ivy League professor (heck, even state school for that matter) would look down upon. What Ivy did you go to and who are the idiots that let you in and handed you a diploma? Do some research before making stupid comments, please. Just a thought ;)
November 19th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Again, I was making a joke which seemed to slip right over your affectedly obtuse head. You may note that I never brought up any “data,” but was simply exploiting the common stereotype of the dejected Cornell student flinging him/herself into your well-known gorge. You may also note that not every comment pertaining to your school is meant to initiate some kind of inane my-elite-school-is-better-than-yours-and-I-have-hastily-Googled-evidence-to-support-this-claim pissing match.
That said, it should be noted that the SUNY board of trustees is appointed by the governor of NY, the very same man who sits on your board of trustees. So it would seem that the man who (for all intents and purposes) heads the SUNY system can, in fact, “do jack in regulating” parts of your school. Furthermore, I find it more than a bit troubling that you would take pride in Cornell’s taking money from the state of NY with no oversight. As someone who hails from that state, I certainly would not appreciate if millions upon millions of my tax dollars were being freely donated to a private corporation that did not have any obligation to benefit the citizens of said state. Though it’s fun to jibe Cornell for its lower admission standards and partial state school status, I actually applaud the system for what it really stands for: allowing in-state residents who would normally not consider attending an elite school (read as: poor people) to get an Ivy League education at state school prices. But I guess thinking like that would make you question my Ivy League-ness. We’re supposed to be keeping ourselves rich while the poor stay poor, right? I mean, that’s why you have a problem with your school’s organization, isn’t it? You wouldn’t want to be confused for a member of the plebeian masses that are SUNY students, right? I mean, why else deny such an innocuous fact?
Oh, and I go to Penn–the school most known as being both the breeding ground of pure evil (Wharton, holla!) and that school where Joe Paterno coaches the kickass football team.
November 19th, 2006 at 9:00 pm
OMG this webdesign team SUCKS! The center of the page (where eyes naturally gravitate) is…a blank collumn?!
November 19th, 2006 at 9:54 pm
“I certainly would not appreciate if millions upon millions of my tax dollars were being freely donated to a private corporation that did not have any obligation to benefit the citizens of said state.”
I agree, though this is not the case with the contract colleges. The reason NY pumps money into them is because the state believes that these 3 schools in particular are especially beneficial to the state and utilizes the reduced tuition (I pay about $32,000 total a year while my girlfriend in AAP pays about $44,000) to attract students from NY.
I question your “ivy league-ness” because you have repteatedly taken jabs at Cornell on issues that are easily the most commonly misunderstood, except with some basic research.
“We’re supposed to be keeping ourselves rich while the poor stay poor, right? I mean, that’s why you have a problem with your school’s organization, isn’t it?”
No, in fact I am extremely grateful for the contract colleges and I think they are part of what makes Cornell unique. The problem arises when people immediately discount them and title them as ‘lesser’ than any of the endowed colleges. This is really far from the truth. As you know, the term ’state school’ is thrown around Cornell’s way as a method of demeaning the school and its students.
Onto SUNY – as much of a prick statement as it is, I really am not thrilled with the association. I see you’re from New York, so you are very familiar with how funding has been cut from all of the SUNY schools and how they’ve plummeted accordingly. Do you notice how SUNY doesn’t have a flagship university like UCB, UVA, or UMich? Binghamton took the single largest hit in the rankings this year of all schools in the top 200, and I dont think any SUNY school moved up even 1 spot. I hate to cite US news, but would you agree that moving from a spot in the low 70’s to something like 86th is a rather big leap back? The state has even cut funding from Cornell, and as a result tuition has increased substantially in the past 3-4 years. As you know, the SUNY system really isn’t the benchmark that should be followed for state schools – great for the value, but they lag far behind the other premier publics in the US. Agreed?
November 19th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
While SUNY schools have certainly flagged under the budget-slashing Pataki regime, they are in no way bad. In fact, I think within the next few years–especially since Eliot Spitzer is soon to take office–university centers like Buffalo, Binghamton, and Stony Brook are going to rise to national prominence. Your attitude is exactly why people hate us as members of the Ivy League. I can think of several high school friends who were at least if not more intelligent than the average Penn student, but chose to attend a SUNY school for one reason or another. Often it’s a money issue, but sometimes a state school is just a better fit for someone, even if they could have attended an Ivy. In fact, my sister attended and graduated from SUNY Geneseo, even though she was accepted to both Yale and Brown. Your being “not thrilled with the association” smacks of classism and belies an ignorantly founded “thought process that any Ivy League professor (heck, even state school for that matter) would look down upon.”
But, I mean, I go to Penn rather than a SUNY school, so I’m probably full of shit.
November 19th, 2006 at 11:06 pm
Um regardless of whether or not its a safe school, its easier to get into than almost any good school (not just ivys), and its all the way up in ugly ithaca. Plus, you guys are all insecure losers.
November 19th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
I certainly hope spitzer does change things, though I’m not sure the type of walls he will run in. Though i’d agree that some choose a SUNY school based on fit, examples like your sister are certainly the minority. I’m certain you know this having taken any sort of statistical math class at wharton.
“Your being “not thrilled with the association” smacks of classism and belies an ignorantly founded “thought process that any Ivy League professor (heck, even state school for that matter) would look down upon.”
Unfortunately, one of my parents teaches part time at a SUNY school and I get to constantly hear the complains about the marginal pay from year to year and how it’s causing teachers to rethink staying in the SUNY system in the future. Not all bad though, it was because of the shortage that she was able to pick up the extra job in the first place. You can read up on it in any SUNY teachers publication. Why would I be thrilled with the asociation that is paying teachers far less than they’re worth?
“its easier to get into than almost any good school (not just ivys”
statistical data says no.
“all the way up in ugly ithaca”
This one, i’m for sure, is a joke.
November 20th, 2006 at 1:26 am
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November 20th, 2006 at 1:39 am
To be fair, underpaying adjuncts and nontenured faculty is de rigeur at virtually all state schools, if not in academia in general.
November 20th, 2006 at 1:49 am
I find it a little bit ridiculous that people are having success trolling for insecure Cornell students on here. Almost all the students I know here are perfectly happy with their place in the world and while it takes a certain arrogance to brag about a school being a spot or two higher in the rankings or percentage points lower in admissions rates, it also takes a certain ignorance to feel compelled to respond to something like that. Just let them beat their chests, and we’ll fuck them up in hockey.
And Philly dude- I’m not sure where the whole Joe Paterno thing came up. Maybe it’s a joke I’m not getting but I hope you know it wasn’t JoePa that led Penn to a 27-28 loss to Cornell this weekend.
November 20th, 2006 at 2:04 am
Hahaha. That guy from Philadelphia misspelled “de rigueur” while he was trying to sound smart. Nice job Penn!
November 20th, 2006 at 2:24 am
Ha indeed. God knows typing errors indicate a lack in intelligence. But if you think of a common phrase like “de rigueur” as something that’s trying to sound smart, we’re all in a lot more trouble than I thought.
Anyway, I don’t think Penn has a hockey team. So, um, go Big Red? And yeah, Joe Pa is Penn State’s coach. Think about it, it’ll come to you eventually. But really, I don’t pay much attention to Penn athletics. I live in a city where there are interesting things to do and places to go.
Oh, and do they have irony in Ithaca?
November 20th, 2006 at 8:36 am
insecurity is not the same is doing away with a common misunderstanding of the school.
November 20th, 2006 at 2:55 pm
You know…I’m tired of all this Ithaca bashing. Ithaca is an awesome town to go to school. It’s not the cultural backwater that everyone seems to think it is. Granted it’s not New York, Philly, or Boston, but speaking as a native new yorker, I actually did more when I was in Ithaca because it was affordable (the museum on campus is free in comparison to MOMA’s we’ll rape you at the door 20 dollar fee). THere are a large number of restaurants, and A Taste of Thai is arguably the best casual Thai dining outside of Thailand. It’s also gorgeous and allows you to engage in the outdoors. I mean if I’d gone to Columbia (and this is not a slam on the school, just a function of its location) my opportunities to take snowboarding, skiing, horseback riding etc would have been more limited. And there’s nothing like going for a swim (illegally) in the gorges once the weather’s warmed up, or getting freshly picked apples and pears in the dining hall because the orchards are fruiting. Yes, it can be gray and miserable for a good portion of the year, but honestly when you’re studying that much it’s good to have just enough going on to do something other than studying, but not so much so you feel life’s passing you by. Ithaca is also only 4.5 hours from NYC, 6 from boston, 8 or so from Montreal, etc. And it has an airport. We also get a lot of bands because of our wonderful location which is on the way to somewhere else, and as a student you actually get to work the shows. We’ve had B.B. King, Stone Temple Pilots, No Doubt, Black Eye Pease (I got to meet Will.I.Am) Juraasic 5, Moby (when he was hot), Run DMC (before one of them died) etc. I’ve been out of school for four years and I still miss and love Ithaca.
November 20th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
MoMa and the Met (and a whole slew of others) are free for columbia students, btw.
November 20th, 2006 at 6:17 pm
They’re actually free to all students at certain times. And Ithaca isn’t awful, it just suffers from the same inferiority complex and delusions of grandeur that all non-NYC New York towns do; it brainwashes its citizens into thinking that its shortcomings are heartwarmingly quaint. Trust me, I grew up in an Upstate city, I’ve felt that way too. It’s all a lie.
November 20th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
Stuck in Philthy, technically Ithaca’s not Upstate (it’s Western New York) but semantics aside Ithaca is unlike most of Upstate New York in that its a raging liberal town as evidenced by our resident beer can collecting, bicycle riding, metallica blaring tranny, our local buddhist temple and the fact that crazy courtney love came by to get Kurt Cobain’s ashes blessed there. I also don’t think that Ithaca suffers from delusions of grandeur; it is what it is. Just like New York is what it is. I’m not saying that Ithaca is the best place ever – just that it’s a really nice place to go to school for four years which I don’t think I’d say for other places (Binghamton immediately springs to mind and this is a personal thing but I’m not overly fond of Boston or San Francisco though I’m perhaps the only person alive who thinks New Haven is neat).
Stuck in Philthy most museums in NYC are free on Friday evenings, but after being a travel bum in Europe for so long I think the rates that we charge museums, and the way we make art so inaccessible in NYC only contributes to the whole class/structure of the city that I wanted to get away from in HS and now that I’m back I really want to get away from.
Mike point taken…but a Long Island Ice tea still only costs $5 in Ithaca as opposed to $10 minimum for a bartender to piss in a cup in most NYC bars. A friend of mine calls Cornell and Dartmouth the great unifiers in the sense that because they’re located in relatively small towns even the poor kids can afford to socialize with the wealthy kids, because work study is enough to cover the cost of booze :D. Besides that, I’m just really over the city; I’m sick of hipsters and an increasingly stratified social structure that makes New York feel less exciting and interesting and more like high school.
November 21st, 2006 at 3:47 am
Thanks for the geography lesson. I grew up mostly in Buffalo/Rochester, which incidentally are both in Western New York–as opposed to central New York which encompasses Ithaca. All of which, by the way, are North of The City, making them upstate New York. But anyway, the things you’re talking about are in no way exclusive to Ithaca–the left-leaning bohemian atmosphere, critical-massers, arts community, and thriving music scene are all mainstays of the Buffalo life in particular. Not to mention that their bars are cheap as hell, abundant, and open late. Like I said, Ithaca’s not awful, it just constantly toots its own horn like the rest of upstate and tricks its residents into thinking that they live in a one-of-a-kind place. If there’s one thing that’s been made abundantly clear to me, it’s that everything that’s great about those towns can be found in pretty much every other upstate city. And you can find all of that stuff in more in any big metropolitan area. If small towns are your bag, hey, great for you. But as an urban elitist, I say fuck that. Give me public transportation, culture, and minimal nature any day of the week.
November 21st, 2006 at 3:53 am
Oh, and by the way, I should mention that I’m not one of those future-gentrifying, I-can’t-wait-to-graduate-and-move-to-Williamsburg type of people. I don’t even particularly like New York more than the next guy. I was born in Toronto, lived there on and off, and plan on ending up there.
November 21st, 2006 at 8:29 am
“the left-leaning bohemian atmosphere, critical-massers, arts community, and thriving music scene are all mainstays of the Buffalo life in particular.”
I’ve gotta disagree dude. I’m not doing so just to ‘win’ any type of battle, but I’ve also lived in the Buffalo area as well (Kenmore if you want to be more exact). I moved to another upstate city a few years ago, and I must say Ithaca is the most unique and hip of them all, by far.
November 21st, 2006 at 9:20 am
can someone please pass the salt…
thanks.
November 21st, 2006 at 1:02 pm
Don’t abbreviate your name to CU, please. For a second, I mistook you for a more respectable school…
November 21st, 2006 at 2:54 pm
C’mon, let’s keep bashing Cornell for offering an education on egalitarian principles. Not EVERYONE is accepted. I think it’s a great place, with tremendous resources available to all — better than BROWN, better than DARTMOUTH and doesn’t deserve its sub-standing — what inferiority complex?
November 21st, 2006 at 3:23 pm
you kids are all crazy, its one thing to be proud of your school but to argue over this for this long is just dumb and proves you ALL have inferiority complexes about your own schools in relation to the rest of the ivy league.
November 21st, 2006 at 6:09 pm
Cornell is the worst ivy hahaha, better than brown and dartmouth, hahahahahhaha
November 22nd, 2006 at 1:01 am
worst ivy like the poorest billionaire?
Cornell has rocked brown in the rankings for the past few years in a row, and everybody knows that. Last time I knew, as well, Cornell’s peer review was above (or tied to) Columbia, Penn, Brown – and WAY ahead of darmouth. Those in the academic world rank Cornell as the best out of all of those – people just bash cornell for being better than the rest.
November 22nd, 2006 at 1:11 am
Don’t kid yourself, Cornell is a big safety school for insecure kids that couldn’t make it into schools like Brown, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Penn, Columbia, and Dartmouth.
Let’s just be honest, regardless of the figures, HAPPIEST STUDENTS IN THE US are at Brown and they’re the #4 toughest school to get into. You guys barely have an admissions process, I have literally never heard someone say “Shit, I just got rejected from Cornell”.
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 am
Haha, inferiority complex? Seeing as I go to the top school in the nation for my program, who do I have to feel inferior to? The other Ivies that I was accepted to but didn’t go to?
November 22nd, 2006 at 9:36 am
I’m not really sure where the logic arrives when comparing “safety schools.” Then again, leave it to ivy league students to say the school with a 24% acceptance rate is a “safety school” to a school with an 18% acceptance rate.
For what it’s worth, I got into Darmouth as well (the only other ivy i applied to – didnt like brown at all) … I just thought I was a better fit at my safety school, turns out I was right.
“regardless of the figures, HAPPIEST STUDENTS IN THE US”
and lets just say, “regardless of the figures,” George W. Bush is easily the best president the US has had to date.
November 22nd, 2006 at 9:54 am
everyone knows cornell kids have confidence issues, thats why they put the gorge there people.
natural formation my ass!
its been rumored that ezra cornell dug that hole himself in an attempt to gain a place in the guiness book for “worlds largest outhouse”.
recognizing the demand for “higher” education, he bought out the incest laden lands of ithaca.
cornell university was born.
………
heres a joke:
what did the cornell grad say to the harvard grad?
would you like fries with that?
December 1st, 2006 at 2:17 am
I think this whole discussion is ridiculous. You are all a bunch of kids talking about being rejected from amazing schools like Cornell and aren’t even considering the people who are stuck in situations where they can only afford to go to a CUNY school or can’t even afford college. How about you all get off your fucking high horse for two seconds and realize that you could be at a much worse school than CORNELL, get over yourselves. You might have good grades and high SAT scores but that doesn’t say shit about whether you’re a good person and I’d much rather be a good person at the cost of good grades and equally good SAT scores.
oh and why is Bush the best president we have had to date?
December 1st, 2006 at 2:18 am
I think this whole discussion is ridiculous. You are all a bunch of kids talking about being rejected from amazing schools like Cornell and aren’t even considering the people who are stuck in situations where they can only afford to go to a CUNY school or can’t even afford college. How about you all get off your fucking high horse for two seconds and realize that you could be at a much worse school than CORNELL, get over yourselves. You might have good grades and high SAT scores but that doesn’t say shit about whether you’re a good person and I’d much rather be a good person at the cost of good grades and equally good SAT scores.
oh and why is Bush the best president we have had to date?
December 21st, 2006 at 10:47 am
You guys are the biggest bunch of stuffed shirts I’ve ever read.
You pay upwards of $40,000 annually to go the the likes of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and, yes, Cornell. Students at Binghamton (no “p”) — the “premier public ivy in the northeast” — pay a mere $15,000, including room and board. And you call your self-absorbed selves “smart?”
It is no wonder that, here in the Empire State, there’s a saying, “Smart kids go to Cornell. Smart kids with smart parents go to Binghamton!”
December 21st, 2006 at 11:22 am
hey I almost went to Binghamton (they happen to have a good program in what I study). But after a visit and tour of the campus, during which I wanted to head further north to jump into a gorge, I decided it was not the best place to be. So yeah, maybe Binghamton is a “good school” but I chose an Ivy over it because a) I prefer not to live on a campus that looks like the 70’s threw up all over the place, b) I wanted to be in a city with civilization and not in the middle of some random woods and mountains, and c) frankly, an Ivy looks better on a resume. I know, it’s “elitist” or whatever, but my field is already competitive enough as it is, and every little bit helps.
December 21st, 2006 at 2:03 pm
“It is no wonder that, here in the Empire State, there’s a saying, “Smart kids go to Cornell. Smart kids with smart parents go to Binghamton!”
I live in the empire state, and even here we see SUNY Binghamton as a good school, but far from an Ivy (safety ivy at best).
Besides, I could easily name 8 other public universities that are far more renown and could be called a ‘public ivy’ before binghamton.
December 31st, 2006 at 3:38 pm
Look at the number of undergrads at Brown and compare them to Cornell (5,900 to 13,400) and look at the high 25% SAT’s (1530 to 1480). Brown is much more selective!
USNews ranks Cornell higher because it has a larger endownment (because it’s a larger school) and much of that money is a result of it being SUNY-Ithaca.
December 31st, 2006 at 4:33 pm
Cornell blows. If anything, Cornell is the ’safety ivy’, since pretty much everyone that applies gets in.
January 1st, 2007 at 3:05 am
All of you that are calling Cornell a “safety ivy” may very well be correct. For some people, Cornell IS a relative safe school. Does this in any way take away from the fact that it is still an amazing school? Cornell has quite possibly the best Hotel School in the world (dont hate on what you dont know about), the only real respectable engineering program in the ivies, a damn good science department, and the World’s best Architecture program. Who the hell cares how hard your school is to get in to? Harvard might have a lower acceptance rate and higher GPA and SAT averages…but if I am going to study architecture…I sure as hell am NOT going to Harvard.
Quit being elitists. All of the Ivies are good in their own rights. Look into your own major and make the decisions. Quit bashing Cornell because we simply accept more students. On that note however, realize also that Cornell’s freshman class is roughly twice the size of any of the other Ivies…meaning Cornell has to accept a larger proportion of its applicants to fill its class. So for you Brown folk (who seem to be the biggest haters) think of it this way. Brown receives 18,000 applicants for a class of 1500. Cornell…with a class size of 3200 had 28,000 applicants. Cornell with over twice the freshman class size did NOT receive more than two times the applicants…only 10,000 more in fact. Thus, the acceptance rate would undoubtedly be higher.
All in all… Just stop hatin’ on Cornell. Have pride in your school..but ya don’t need to hate on another school just because you’re insecure in your choice.
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
For whatever it’s worth, I went to Cornell because I didn’t want a degree in the Philosophy of Engineering, I wanted a degree in MSE. If you mean to say that I’m slacking off in some way by getting a Cornell Engineering degree, you’re welcome to join me up in sunny ol’ Ithaca to give it your damnedest.
January 8th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
what’s wrong with being a state school? did we ever establish that?