I think the humor comes from the absurdity of the entire situation, not the interpretation of Nietzsche itself. Everyone who isn’t stupid enough to think that the cartoon advocates rape is offended at very the depiction of the situation.

SPOT ON!! Tim Andreadis is an idiot who’s completely blind when it comes to differnet views on issues like this. Anybody who disagrees with his pro-feminist/gay views, he deems bigots. Tim, you’re woman, IvyGate for President.

D ’09,
and what, pray tell, is wrong with being “pro-feminist and pro-gay?” i think you miss the issue entirely, and you come off sounding quite intolerant.
that having been said: i think the above statement is also missing the point of the cartoon. the comic is clearly not advocating rape, and in fact, mocks one who would ever justify taking advantage of a woman. the protagonist declares himself to be “beyond good and evil,” referencing a book by nietzche, but also saying that he considers himself to be outside of the realm of the moral. i think most of us will agree that being moral is a good thing, and thus the discerning reader will deem the main character in the comic as “bad” and thus NOT deign his behavior and beliefs acceptable.

noteworthy: the dartmouth IS independant and as such SA’s wrist slap based on misinterpretation does nothing. way to finally get something done, timmy.

Although I do believe the cartoon is insensitive (I’ve heard the argument that if you had been sexually assaulted this weekend and you opened Monday’s paper to see this comic, you would feel profoundly isolated from your college community), I defend the D’s right to print it. The editors at the Dartmouth gave Lerman the chance to revise the comic before going to print, and he stuck to his work. Therefore, the Dartmouth – an organization completely separate from the college – should not be made to revise its standards because of a misunderstanding between a comic and the students who did not “get the joke,” as it were.

However, what I see as most interesting about this comic is not its content, but its author. We know that Dartmouth has a problem when a first year student, here for less than two months, can already recognize that sexual assault is an everyday reality on this campus. I support Andreadis in his desire to stop Dartmouth’s acceptance of the number of sexual assaults on campus. I, however, think we should focus on how to stop these assaults, instead of on censoring comics which were made as commentary on the flippant treatment of assault on this campus, and thus teach us to stop perpetuating the acceptance of such behavior.

oh good lord – the student assembly is the most useless group of students on campus. look at their track record. and speaking of track records, it is traditional for the student assembly to hate the d and vice versa. that is, the d would hate student assembly if it were worth their time.

and several students does not a majority make!

I hate how all of our respective student bodies are so goddamn sensitive. Man up, bitches.

I think the D is probably more worthless than SA. Strongly worded proposals are awesome.

“a first year student, here for less than two months, can already recognize that sexual assault is an everyday reality on this campus.”

Shut the hell up D ’08, HE’S NOT RECOGNIZING “SEXUAL ASSAULT”, HE’S RECOGNIZING THE REDICULOUSNESS THAT IS ALSO KNOWN AS LIBERAL INDOCTRINATION ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES. Wise up.

The real cause for uproar should be that collegiate cartoonists are simply not funny. That’s something worth protesting.

What a bunch of weenies.

first, nietzsche’s opinion isn’t part of the debate surrounding this issue. and no one at D is saying the cartoon as a whole ADVOCATES RAPE directly–obvi the cartoonist isn’t saying, ‘go rape’–but his blasé treatment of the subject of sexual assualt, the imagery and general representation of the woman involved, and ESPECIALLY the campus’ (and all you other ignorants, now) aggressing counter-attack against those who point out that this isn’t funny or appropriate all reflect the dangerous social dismission of rape as a disqustingly pervasive PROBLEM at dartmouth, and in the world in general. and that passive acceptence of rape as “no big deal” is perhaps the most serious issue…

I think that was probably the longest sentence ever recorded.

Seriously, you’re murdering the fun.

no, the fun was gone as soon RAPE became a JOKE on monday.

why do people need to fight against the recognition of this as a serious issue? sick, people.

Pro-Gay & Pro-Feminist; I second the “what’s wrong with that”!
This is just the problem with our systems, our media sources, the stereotypes and stigmas that have been force fed to us. We’ve been told that there is something wrong with being upset about little things. We have been told that the only things to be upset about are blatant offensive acts that are tangible like hate speech written on a car, or a dorm room door etc…

My hope is that students who feel troubled by the most minute incidents will speak up! My hope is that students who feel troubled by the most robust incidents will also speak up! I don’t know how many times students have to be told that they have the POWER to change, to rearrange, to create, to move, to show, to improve our systems when students feel it’s necessary.

“Speak up so your grandmothers’ can hear you…Speak up so your unborn children can hear you”
~L.Prescott

Actually, “WHAT A FRIGHTENING WORLD” the comic does not make rape a joke. What makes rape a joke is girls on this campus who get completely wasted, black out in a basement at 3am in a low cut shirt and slutty skirt, and then when they wake up next to some guy, scream and call it “rape.” Look at the girl in the comic. She is definitely asking for it.

i can’t tell if you’re serious or being sarcastic, i’m hoping for the latter. what a stupid thing to say. if she were asking for it, he wouldn’t have to ask for advice from a philosopher, becuase she would BE ASKING for it. what it looks like to me is a girl who is sick and needs a decent person to help her.

No one ever ASKS to be raped. If someone is intoxiczted, they cannot legally give consent and thus it IS RAPE. To stop rape you have to gain an understanding of what a violent crime it is. 1 out of 3 women will be raped by the age of 25. So, your mom, your sister, your aunt, your cousin, or your niece may have been raped-get some compassion and get serious obout stopping rape!

I thought the comic was supposed to be about Nietzsche being a douchebag? I love the part of “Genealogy of Morals” where he refers to female beauty as “the angelic look of a plump pretty animal.” Well, I’d be pretty pissed too if a whore made me demented from syphilis.

The cartoon just seems to be a knock-off of the scene in Animal House where Pinto faced a similar moral dilemma. Nowadays it seems the only purpose of a college education is to stay ever observant for that which offends. I say that as long as the young man deposits the young lady in a shopping cart at the steps of her abode, he has transcended morality.

@ “What’s wrong with pro-gay & pro-feminist?” Everything, obvi, you dorks. Those folks are the only ones who lack the genetics to spot a joke. Pretty-soon, the annoying feminists (fact), will turn against the male race and make love only to each other; the gays are pretty-much already doing that. But we can’t forget the fact that gays are already so in love with everything feminine, so they would engage in coitus with a girl if it would make her (the girl, not the gay guy), happy. Bottom line is, pretty soon, we’re going to see a middle-class of “Man-Girls,” who also, by the way, can’t spot a joke if it came on their forheads (along with AIDS).

Get a sense of perspective, people–this single cartoon won’t affect anyone five years from now.